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<blockquote data-quote="Barendd Nobeard" data-source="post: 1661815" data-attributes="member: 960">The business plan is interesting, but (like all business plans) it's also partly wishful thinking.It seems to be predicated on that assumption that they can convince most players to buy the minis.&nbsp; I don't think that will happen across the board.&nbsp; They have sold a lot of minis (but is it 7,000,000 minis or 700,000 boxes (10 to a box = 7,000,000 minis <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ), but I also know lots of players who have no interest in the minis at all.&nbsp; Relying on the minis to retain current players seems like a weak strategy to me.&nbsp; I don't see new people playing D&amp;D *because of the minis*.&nbsp; Or current players not dropping out *because of the minis*.&nbsp; What I see, is some current players enjoying the minis.&nbsp; Which is great!&nbsp; But I don't see it as a great retention tool for players.Retain players by using the RPGA?&nbsp; Don't think that'll happen.&nbsp; I see more people dropping out of RPGA than starting to play RPGA in these parts (Wisconsin).The Map Folios?&nbsp; I love maps, and will buy them all (because I love maps), but saying about Map Folio I: &quot;beautiful maps allow DMs to quickly illustrate movement and clarify gameplay&quot; just doesn't ring true *for that product* - the maps are nice, but they're not printed at a scale so you can use minis on them.&nbsp; That would have allowed Map Folio I &quot;to quickly illustrate movement and clarify gameplay.&quot;&nbsp; But the standard one inch = 40 feet (or whatever) does not facilitate gameplay any more than a home-made map on standard graph paper does.&nbsp; Everyone still has to wait while the DM draws the big map (or, worse, describes the room and makes a player draw out the big map).I'm not playing Chicken Little here.&nbsp; I think there are a lot of good ideas in the marketing plan (beginner box set, &quot;D&amp;D Day,&quot;, etc.), but some of them are just silly.&nbsp; Of course, if success of the minis can delay version 4, I'm all for minis!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Barendd Nobeard, post: 1661815, member: 960"] The business plan is interesting, but (like all business plans) it's also partly wishful thinking. It seems to be predicated on that assumption that they can convince most players to buy the minis. I don't think that will happen across the board. They have sold a lot of minis (but is it 7,000,000 minis or 700,000 boxes (10 to a box = 7,000,000 minis ;) ), but I also know lots of players who have no interest in the minis at all. Relying on the minis to retain current players seems like a weak strategy to me. I don't see new people playing D&D *because of the minis*. Or current players not dropping out *because of the minis*. What I see, is some current players enjoying the minis. Which is great! But I don't see it as a great retention tool for players. Retain players by using the RPGA? Don't think that'll happen. I see more people dropping out of RPGA than starting to play RPGA in these parts (Wisconsin). The Map Folios? I love maps, and will buy them all (because I love maps), but saying about Map Folio I: "beautiful maps allow DMs to quickly illustrate movement and clarify gameplay" just doesn't ring true *for that product* - the maps are nice, but they're not printed at a scale so you can use minis on them. [u]That[/u] would have allowed Map Folio I "to quickly illustrate movement and clarify gameplay." But the standard one inch = 40 feet (or whatever) does not facilitate gameplay any more than a home-made map on standard graph paper does. Everyone still has to wait while the DM draws the big map (or, worse, describes the room and makes a player draw out the big map). I'm not playing Chicken Little here. I think there are a lot of good ideas in the marketing plan (beginner box set, "D&D Day,", etc.), but some of them are just silly. Of course, if success of the minis can delay version 4, I'm all for minis! :) [/QUOTE]

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