When Hollywood takes your ideas and calls them their own...

Personally what I have read of this suit sounds silly to me.

I think if WW and/or Nancy Collins win a dime both Anne Rice and William Shakespeare should sue them for it. :)

To clarify- you could take Lestat and mix in Romeo and Juliet and get the Underworld movie I saw. And you're not ripping off WW when you do it. You're ripping off the people THEY based their game and story on.

Chuck
 
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Vigilance said:
Personally what I have read of this suit sounds silly to me.

I think if WW and/or Nancy Collins win a dime both Anne Rice and William Shakespeare should sue them for it. :)

To clarify- you could take Lestat and mix in Romeo and Juliet and get the Underworld movie I saw. And you're not ripping off WW when you do it. You're ripping off the people THEY based their game and story on.

Shakespeare may not have a case anymore, but perhaps Leonard Bernstein's estate does for West Side Story. He took Romeo and Juliet and incorporated it into a modern tale long before WW or Sony ever did. :)
 

jaerdaph said:
Shakespeare may not have a case anymore, but perhaps Leonard Bernstein's estate does for West Side Story. He took Romeo and Juliet and incorporated it into a modern tale long before WW or Sony ever did. :)

Now that you mention it, Underworld bears a *striking* resemblance on several plot points to west side story as well.

And that movie made more money than Underworld.

WW is suing the wrong movie!

There was also the Zeferrelli Romeo and Juliet, and the one with Leo DeCaprio and Claire Danes.

Those guys ALSO ripped off Nancy Collins and WW!

Its a national outrage!

Chuck
 

Vigilance said:
Now that you mention it, Underworld bears a *striking* resemblance on several plot points to west side story as well.

And that movie made more money than Underworld.

WW is suing the wrong movie!

There was also the Zeferrelli Romeo and Juliet, and the one with Leo DeCaprio and Claire Danes.

Those guys ALSO ripped off Nancy Collins and WW!

Its a national outrage!

Chuck

That settles it. I'm sending the judge a DVD of West Side Story!

"Maria... I just met a vampiress named Maria..."

Life is SO Good in America... :)
 

33 Werewoves and Vampires exist together in folklore see abbott and constello meet frankstein, wolfman and Dracula.
34. see wolfman vs Dracula staring beli lugisou
36 one marvels signature daredevil character is fearsome female ninja called ???
37 gee lets describe the classic female vampe
38 strong will and quick like all the other vampires except for gramps on the monsters.
39 gee fan fiction in 1994
40 –44 gee an author wore for us and did well in the horror genre. The story is romeo and Juliet set in our world. Holy rip off Shakespeare is suing West Side Story.
45. Dark gothic don’t that equal the same thing. And the New cyber goth can you say Ann Rice
46 Gee romeo and Juliet again
47 again
53 the movie stole only from us. Boo hoo. Right and your created what from out of no where?
55 say why did count choclator disappear into the fog.
56 and half the vamp movies before 1994 didn’t have the vamps moving quickly? Okay so now they using the matrix speed effect.
57 your forgot Count Dracula and the D&D Monster Manuel 1 copyright was that 1979 or a year or two after.
58 See ann rice and blade and …
59 gee we must make authors come up with new words instead using old farts words my mom uses every time
60 see old wives tales
61 gee I saw the mummy like vamp become the Tom Cruise vamp after feed in comic book in the seventies and one or two old black and white movies. And baron blood in cpt america comics and...
62 okay you got me there
63 gee all the good old counts did not radiate power in the fifties movies.
64 gee I wish authors would just create new words instead of using good old English words. Like all the new words the old 60 and 70 sci fic and horror books created when they wanted to use words that Eric's Granny does not approve of.
65 gee they using a word that perfectly describes a group. Gee next time we sue if they call us geeks because we use geeks ourselves.
69 Um Blade, that vampire movie with Ben Stiler or Miller , plus the Chich movie with vamps, and another one I just saw on fx.
71 Blade did something like this.
72 So that where my lab notes went. I thought my dog ate them. Can anyone send them back I have a chem. test Friday.
74 humm are they repeating this pt.
75 You go Electra um
76 isn’t the heroine generally headstrong like tank girl or that pam Anderson flick barberailla.
77 again see blade
79 gee both sides use a dictionary and thesaurus /
81 No survivors vs a survivor that is a point of difference out you go complaint.
82 How many vamps in Buffy got preggers, and in comics,
83 Hey I tried to sell both sides lightsabers, swords, phasers, and blasters but Lucas, Robbenberry, and Flash Gordon’s lawyers told me to quit.
84 See blade and an old 70 tales from the crypt or was it tales of horro.
85 goth = dark gee repeating pts again
86 your vampire council lives in better house than ours.
87 Yep Vlad admired Lucy just for her mind.
89 gee something new to me. Or did we spend too much money on our sfx budget to erase the people from the mirror.
91 you mean you don’t do the old trick of changing into bats, cats, etc
95 didn’t the wolfman do this vlad in black and white.
96 gee my character in d&d can change too. I became a werebore in 1983 you copying me White Wolf
97 Silver harming werewolves. Hmm I guess that old black and white gypsie was correct.
99 Depending on the movie so was the American Werewolf in London did you sue that movie
100 again repeating a pt
101 repeating one main plot of Romeo and Juliet.
103 choose one either R or J’s poppas.
105 again scrubbing off serial numbers and adding a new coat of paint to R&J
115 vampires plus sunlight equal bad for vamps. Again the good old count learn this when your daddy was watching the old black and white films.
116 We would have used Crips but they would have bust a cap into us.
Lost count on how many times they repeated something slightly different.
It is kind like saying 1. a stop light has 3 color lights red green and yellow.
10 The yellow painted Traffic Light rotate thru the colors red, then green for go, then yellow for slow and finally a red light means stop.
50. The green light on the traffic light burned brighter than the yellow or red lights. (pts 1,10, and 50 are all talking about a traffic light).
Have not seen either the movie or read any white wolf products.
No case.
 

I hope White Wolf goes home with their tail between their legs. This is totally a frivolous lawsuit. While there are some similarities between Underworld and the World of Darkness, they are no more so than what you'd see in Blade, Anne Rice's books, or tons of other material.

However, I would like to see an injection of cash into the industry, at the very least. It could partially make up for that nasty snafu at Steve Jackson games a few years back. Maybe they'll settle out of court?
 

As ridiculous as the case may be, even if they lose they still have the consolation prize. Publicity, baby. When's the last time White Wolf had their companies name and product line talked about in such a wide range of entertainment news outlets? Plus, the odds are decent that Sony will give them something out of court just to get them to go away all the quicker.

-Vanuslux-
 

Bagpuss said:
I only recall hearing 'bloodlines' and families mentioned.


Bloodlines and Families are also used in WoD.

The Giovanni Clan mostly embrace members from thier own living family.

Groups that are not actual clans are called bloodlines.

The Blood Brothers, Gargolyes, Sisters of Cacophany, and Balli are al examples of Bloodlines.
 

herald said:
Bloodlines and Families are also used in WoD.

Oh wow they use similar terms to refer to similar things. Next they will have a lawsuit for calling half-man half-wolf creatures werewolves. Those terms have been in the public domain before WoD came along.
 

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