Where did the Talents go?

[Mostlyjoe]

As I dig up my memories of 4E from earlier previews I remember mention of Talents. Did the Talent picks of old get gobbled up in the Power selections of the now? Or am I missing something?

 

[Henry]

I don't think they actually said "talents", but instead it was "something like talents" -- in other words, they didn't want to give away too much at the time, and a lot of us just assumed "something like talents" really meant "talents."

 

[Voss]

Board members largely assumed the existence of talents.
Though to be fair, that was largely because of how heavily the idea that SW Saga was a preview of 4e was pushed.

 

[Mostlyjoe]

Ah. That would explain the differences between 4E and SWSE. The Power choice encompasses the idea of Talents and the bits of Feats that really, really should have been in the hands of Class powers.

 

[TwinBahamut]

I think the closest thing to Talents remaining are things like the Rogue's choices between two special abilities. Most of the rest is wrapped up in Powers, Feats, and possibly Paragon Paths.

 

[TerraDave]

Board members largely assume

Exactly. And still. And probably even after all the rules are out.

 

[Steely Dan]

Exactly. And still. And probably even after all the rules are out.

Of course, I mean, what would these boards be without hearsay, suspect speculation, and wild conjecture?!

 

[OchreJelly]

But I wonder if the powers are still organized “talent-like”. Like R&C made it sound like fighters have a tree, for lack of a better word, of sword-and-board powers and a tree of 2hander powers. I’m probably reading too much into old and limited info, but it does make me wonder how powers will be organized. Is it by build? Is it by type (combat vs. utility)? Is it by usage (encounter, daily)? Is it alphabetic? Is it by level? Inquiring gamers want to know

 

[Knight Otu]

But I wonder if the powers are still organized “talent-like”. Like R&C made it sound like fighters have a tree, for lack of a better word, of sword-and-board powers and a tree of 2hander powers. I’m probably reading too much into old and limited info, but it does make me wonder how powers will be organized. Is it by build? Is it by type (combat vs. utility)? Is it by usage (encounter, daily)? Is it alphabetic? Is it by level? Inquiring gamers want to know

From the Wizard spells pages from DDXP, it would seem to be level (and indirectly type, it appears)->(maybe usage, not quite conclusive but for attack powers->)alphabetic. Build and similar things likely won't be a factor in sorting - it'll be a sentence in the power description much like we've seen in the rogue powers (and I suspect we'll see similar things with implements, weapons, and other choices).