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Which is a better bladesinger?
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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8060122" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>He takes a lot more hits ... on the order of 20 times as much. Maybe 15 times as much when you consider disengage will prevent a few. Yeah you can use uncanny dodge to cut one attack in half, but by the time you get it on a multiclass build a bladesigner can take a spell slot and reduce it by more than half (if she even gets hit) - You get bitten by an ancient red dragon and the multiclass takes uncanny dodge and reduces the damage to 17, the bladesinger takes a 5th level slot and reduces it to 10.</p><p></p><p>I agree ready is not a great tactic, but it is better than rollling against a 20 to hit with disadvantage on a bladesinger, or alternatively trying to grapple or shove when she gets advantage and has proficiency in acrobatics. Heck taking the BB damage and just rushing the Rogue is even better a better option than not being able to hit at all! It is a good build, I am not saying it isn't a good build and it does do quite a bit more damage. But it will not hold up to a pure bladesinger in melee.</p><p></p><p>I played a level 11 blade singer, Afalia, who was hit by an attack roll in combat about 8 times TOTAL between level 2 and level 11. That is well over 100 battles and she is in melee range in just about every one of them. Four of those hits came in a single round at level 5 when she climbed a ladder and opened a trap door where 4 enemies were waiting for her, suprised her and attacked her with advantage (DM ruled it was advantage because they were waiting for her to open the trap door and stick her head through). They took her to zero hp in one round! She fell off the ladder and took another 2d6 falling damage. That is the only time in 11 levels where she was knocked to zero in combat by a weapon attack and she gets attacked in combat more than anyone else in the 4-person party. My DM actually considered banning future bladesingers because of how difficult it is to hit her.</p><p></p><p>She has had bracers of defense since level 6, so she is slightly better off than a straight up bladesinger in terms of AC. She also now has alert so she is never surprised (but lost a point of AC increase doing that). Afalia is still alive, we just have not played that party in over a year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8060122, member: 6855259"] He takes a lot more hits ... on the order of 20 times as much. Maybe 15 times as much when you consider disengage will prevent a few. Yeah you can use uncanny dodge to cut one attack in half, but by the time you get it on a multiclass build a bladesigner can take a spell slot and reduce it by more than half (if she even gets hit) - You get bitten by an ancient red dragon and the multiclass takes uncanny dodge and reduces the damage to 17, the bladesinger takes a 5th level slot and reduces it to 10. I agree ready is not a great tactic, but it is better than rollling against a 20 to hit with disadvantage on a bladesinger, or alternatively trying to grapple or shove when she gets advantage and has proficiency in acrobatics. Heck taking the BB damage and just rushing the Rogue is even better a better option than not being able to hit at all! It is a good build, I am not saying it isn't a good build and it does do quite a bit more damage. But it will not hold up to a pure bladesinger in melee. I played a level 11 blade singer, Afalia, who was hit by an attack roll in combat about 8 times TOTAL between level 2 and level 11. That is well over 100 battles and she is in melee range in just about every one of them. Four of those hits came in a single round at level 5 when she climbed a ladder and opened a trap door where 4 enemies were waiting for her, suprised her and attacked her with advantage (DM ruled it was advantage because they were waiting for her to open the trap door and stick her head through). They took her to zero hp in one round! She fell off the ladder and took another 2d6 falling damage. That is the only time in 11 levels where she was knocked to zero in combat by a weapon attack and she gets attacked in combat more than anyone else in the 4-person party. My DM actually considered banning future bladesingers because of how difficult it is to hit her. She has had bracers of defense since level 6, so she is slightly better off than a straight up bladesinger in terms of AC. She also now has alert so she is never surprised (but lost a point of AC increase doing that). Afalia is still alive, we just have not played that party in over a year. [/QUOTE]
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