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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9157368" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Okay but thematically I don’t think it holds up. The Paladin, the holy knight, is absolutely comparable to the fighter in weapon mastery. The Barbarian depends on the subclass and the specific character concept. Rangers are right behind Paladins. Like I’m all for just adding more flavor to the fighter with stuff like just being harder to make spells stick to, and being able to deflect spells with a weapon, not bc they are doing a magical defense trick but just through a level of armed skill that others can’t match. I just don’t honk the fighter actually meets that in flavor text or mechanics. And again, the thing I brought up the fighters lacking identity for was talking about whether classes should get put under the fighter umbrella as subclasses, and my response was that it would be better to go the other way. I stand by that, not least of which because the fighter is much more bland than the other classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9157368, member: 6704184"] Okay but thematically I don’t think it holds up. The Paladin, the holy knight, is absolutely comparable to the fighter in weapon mastery. The Barbarian depends on the subclass and the specific character concept. Rangers are right behind Paladins. Like I’m all for just adding more flavor to the fighter with stuff like just being harder to make spells stick to, and being able to deflect spells with a weapon, not bc they are doing a magical defense trick but just through a level of armed skill that others can’t match. I just don’t honk the fighter actually meets that in flavor text or mechanics. And again, the thing I brought up the fighters lacking identity for was talking about whether classes should get put under the fighter umbrella as subclasses, and my response was that it would be better to go the other way. I stand by that, not least of which because the fighter is much more bland than the other classes. [/QUOTE]

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