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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9161510" data-attributes="member: 996">So, you'd be telling other people how to play the game and how to play their characters?Do you tell that to the wizard casting Haste on you?&nbsp; (That spell had some nasty side effects in certain editions, too, but I'm betting you didn't, you just expected to be asked about whether you wanted to age or risk losing a turn if the caster's concentration was broken.)That would be entirely on you, Lanefan.&nbsp; Why are you picking hypothetical fights?TBF, the extreme 'Lazy' form of the build was fairly worthless on it's own, it would invest in all action granting and effect-line exploits, and high INT to maximize them, and ignore STR thus would melee attack as well as, well, a wizard.A legit Tactical Warlord would often attack on it's own, possibly granting an ally an action in addition to that, but did have an at-will to just grant an attack (with a damage bonus), if that seemed the best use of an action.&nbsp; It kinda goes all the way back to the og Thief's Backstab</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9161510, member: 996"] So, you'd be telling other people how to play the game and how to play their characters? Do you tell that to the wizard casting Haste on you? (That spell had some nasty side effects in certain editions, too, but I'm betting you didn't, you just expected to be asked about whether you wanted to age or risk losing a turn if the caster's concentration was broken.) That would be entirely on you, Lanefan. Why are you picking hypothetical fights? TBF, the extreme 'Lazy' form of the build was fairly worthless on it's own, it would invest in all action granting and effect-line exploits, and high INT to maximize them, and ignore STR thus would melee attack as well as, well, a wizard. A legit Tactical Warlord would often attack on it's own, possibly granting an ally an action in addition to that, but did have an at-will to just grant an attack (with a damage bonus), if that seemed the best use of an action. It kinda goes all the way back to the og Thief's [I]Backstab[/I] [/QUOTE]

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