D&D 4E Which old setting would you like to see revamped for 4E?

[frankthedm]

While I totally dig Kara-Tur, I would like the 4th Ed OA to be a little more generic, so you can create any Asian campaign you like (Korean, Chinese, Nepalese etc).

I'd like 2 settings

Mythic Japan ala Kamigawa with heavy anime influences.

Generic Asian [low}fantasy with focus on Leaders and Heroes and having rulership being a source of Power. Kinda like Birthright meets Romance of the 3 kingdoms

 

[curupira]

Not to be contrary, but I honestly really strongly hope that they don't waste on second of valuable time on Mystara. It has, in my eyes, no redeeming features whatsoever, being just a horrible, illogical, dated mish-mash of cultures and civilizations placed almost at random on a world. Every moment spent on it is a moment that could have been spent more constructively.

Concerning Mystara as the whole setting, I agree with you. But, being someone who started playing D&D in the era of AD&D 2e, I really liked the Karameikos and Glantri setting books. A lot.

That said, I voted for Al-Qadim, because its books were superb.

 

[kennew142]

While I totally dig Kara-Tur, I would like the 4th Ed OA to be a little more generic, so you can create any Asian campaign you like (Korean, Chinese, Nepalese etc).

I could deal with a more generic OA as well, although Kara-tur is in the FR and would see use in our FR games. I just don't like Rokugan. I mean, I really don't like Rokugan.

 

[crazy_cat]

... a new Dark Sun, starting over at the beginning, not coming from the terrible second version, but straight from the original, pre-dating even the original adventure. Again, bringing back Brom or at least someone with a similar intense style would be a must. Obviously this could wait until 4E had some decent Psionics rules in place.

Agreed. Dark, dangeous, grim and gritty - a land in need of heroes, where life is cheap and merely surviving to old age can be considered and achievement. Perfect for 4e and PoL.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Concerning Mystara as the whole setting, I agree with you. But, being someone who started playing D&D in the era of AD&D 2e, I really liked the Karameikos and Glantri setting books. A lot.

Yeah, and I always feel a bit bad hammering Mystara because I know Karameikos and Glantri were good stuff. BUT OH GOD THE REST OF THE SETTING AHHH. Sorry. Ahem. Maybe, if they did Mystara, they could start with Karameikos and Glantri, and just quietly re-do the rest of the world to the same level of quality.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Nyambe.

Northern Crown.

Oathbound.

Testament.

Dark Sun.

Planescape.

DragonStar.

I'd loathe for the 'mythic culture' books (Maztica/"Southern Crown", Kara-Tur/"Oriental Adventures", Al-Quadim/"Arabian Adventures") to be linked to FR. I don't like FR. I don't want to play in FR. I don't want to even entertain the thought that someone like Elminster is even in the same game.

Take the Nyambe route, take the Rokugan route, make them self-contained little places you can either use on their own, or drop into other settings as needed.

This is also my issue with Spelljammer. Other than the fact that I think DragonStar did "Fantasy in Space" much better, without the inherent absurdities and preponderance of anthropomorphic animal-things, SJ has a few good ideas. Elven and drow armadas, Illithid space-vessels, Beholders the size of planets...that's cool.

Planescape I somewhat except from the 'connection to other settings' thing because Sigil's whole motif is that it connects to everything, anywhere, ever. Inifinite possibility is part and parcel of PS's appeal, and it needs to be preserved.

DarkSun is cool, no questions.

Oathbound deserves a 4e book. That setting kicked hard.

I would like a series of 'genre', and 'mythic world' style books, so we could get supplements for various locations and ages, all self-contained.

About the only settings that don't fit into those models are Dark Sun, Planescape, and Oathbound. The other ones I'd like to see done are all "D&D versions of Place X" or "D&D versions of Genre Y" Which are cool, but aren't really unique settings.

As a postscript, I do want rules to play dragon PC's in 4e. One of the coolest one-off adventures I played in 3e was after the Draconomicon came out and people rolled up dragon characters. It was AWESOME.

 

[WyzardWhately]

Or maybe they should take a bunch of the 'good bits' that come from other settings, and put them all in the same sphere. I'm seeing all this support for Al-Quadim, Maztica, Karameikos, Kara-Tur, etc. Most of these things seem to be mythologized versions of real-world ancient cultures. You take all of these, remove them from FR or wherever, and stick them on a single world. I think that'd be pretty nifty, although it'd need rules for extensive travel and so forth to make it work in a way that *I* like. You know, put out some good hooks for long-term sea voyages or trading caravans, that kind of thing. Make each "region" a compelling enough space that you could run entire campaigns without ever leaving the home area, or really interacting with the others, if you wanted to.

I suppose you'd really have to publish them as separate books for this to work well (otherwise people would feel uneasy about using only 1/6th or whatever of the book they bought, and there wouldn't be enough room for detail) but overall I think it'd be pretty sweet.

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

Man, no love for Maztica.

Maztica cries itself to sleep at night on a pile of d12's.

Tough call between Al-Quadim, Darksun and Planescape. Any of them would be great.

 

[Dausuul]

Maztica cries itself to sleep at night on a pile of d12's.

It's pretty impressively unwanted, actually. 166 votes so far, and not a single one for Maztica. Can it break 200?

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

Oathbound deserves a 4e book. That setting kicked hard.

Agreed. Telekinetic jellyfish for the win. They had supposedly worked more on the Vault sourcebook, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed we'll at least see a pdf release.

Bastion really could have used some better playtesters though.