Which RPG games depend on the OGL 1.0a?

[CapnZapp]

Level Up/A5E by EN

I was wondering if there was a reason this wasn't on the list? (The only reason I can think of is "it's too obviously a OGL game")''

So thank you for that

 

[doctorhook]

I was wondering if there was a reason this wasn't on the list? (The only reason I can think of is "it's too obviously a OGL game")''

So thank you for that

I’m extremely curious about what will happen to Level Up: A5E now…

 

[CapnZapp]

I’m extremely curious about what will happen to Level Up: A5E now…

Honestly I don't think Hasbro's first priority is to go after existing content. Their goal is to stop future content. So I would guess EN Publishing might get away with selling off their remaining stock of physical media.

 

[Reynard]

Also, some companies have released SRDs of their core systems without necessarily releasing an OGL game. Free Leagues Year Zero Engine, for example (which I want to use for a project).

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Every game that uses D&D concepts like Fighters, Clerics, Wizards, levels, classes, Elves, Orcs, are in the danger zone.

Don't kid yourself you're fine just because you think you will be able to use legalese to weasel yourself out of any formal definitions.

You are only safe* if your game demonstrably uses a different game engine than that of D&D. Or in other words, your game has never had the appeal of being similar to or like D&D (any version). Games like BRP/RQ, GURPS Fantasy or MERP/RoleMaster.

*) and no, contrary to what you might think, I am not a lawyer

Rifts and TORG (and I know there are others) both predate the OGL by a decade or more and use roll D20 and add modifier to hit target number. Both are more then different enough not to matter.

THis is important... as you said

You are only safe* if your game demonstrably uses a different game engine than that of D&D.

and I hope that is not lost on all the companies trying to push forward.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Got'cha. Why reinvent the wheel if you've already got something you can use.

I hope that they get a desent lawyer and have them rewrite the OGL with irrevocable and then just put out stuff again... I still need to try FATE

 

[CapnZapp]

Rifts and TORG (and I know there are others) both predate the OGL by a decade or more and use roll D20 and add modifier to hit target number. Both are more then different enough not to matter.

More to the point, there's no money in those games. So they're safe because Hasbro won't care, not because they're using their d20's differently...

that is not lost on all the companies trying to push forward.

Personally though I am of the opinion there are already more than enough (fantasy) rulesets to go around.

I realize we're in front of a wave of new game systems because it's much easier to sell complete new game systems, but I would have loved it if at least some of the current 3PPs would look around for existing fantasy rulesets and base their not-D&D products around them...

 

[Reynard]

More to the point, there's no money in those games. So they're safe because Hasbro won't care, not because they're using their d20's differently...

WotC isn't claiming copyright on "roll a d20."

 

[CapnZapp]

WotC isn't claiming copyright on "roll a d20."

No.

But even if they were, you'd be fine if you made no money. Is the point I was making.

 

[mhd]

More to the point, there's no money in those games.

No money in Torg or Rifts?