Which witch wished which wicked wish?

tleilaxu · Nov 28, 2002

I know this was just covered in another thread, but could someone who has dealt with the witch handbooks (IE The Quintessential Witch, the Witch's Handbook et al.) Give me a quick pro and con for each of the books out there?

Sanackranib · Nov 28, 2002

witch

I can only speak for the quentissential witch and the wild mage witch version as those are the only 2 that I have seen.

the quentisential witch has spells off both the mage and druid lists and can learn spells from both lists that are not on the witch list but at 1 level higher. they learn a set # of spells per level but can research others just as a mage. with the new feats presented in this book they are a strong class. they don't get too many spells per day but have the best list. good skills d6 hit points considered a divine caster so can wear armor.all in all a good and playable class if a bit on the overpowered side.

the wildmage witch version seems like a strait 3e conversion of the wild mage from 2e. they have as meny spells as a sorc, can only learn a few (like a sorc) and have a high chance of spell failure. cant wear armor - can be entertaining to play, not as powerfull as the quentissential but I use both in my game and consider both to be playable.

hope that helps

tleilaxu · Nov 29, 2002

hmm... what i've heard about Quin witch sounds interesting... what does the Green Ronin handbook have that the Q.W. doesn't?

trancejeremy · Nov 29, 2002

Re: witch

Sanackranib said:
the quentisential witch has spells off both the mage and druid lists and can learn spells from both lists that are not on the witch list but at 1 level higher. they learn a set # of spells per level but can research others just as a mage.

Bear in mind, that latter bit (being able to research spells from other lists) is at the DM's discretion.

Nightfall · Dec 2, 2002

I don't have either, but I do recommend you look at Simon's review of the Witch book from GR on the review page.

Corinth · Dec 2, 2002

I have a review of the Green Ronin version in the queue at RPG Net. It should be up this week.

Azure Trance · Dec 2, 2002

I was going to buy one of the Witches class books until I read Psions review regarding how, iirc, there wasn't a stereotype for the witch that the existing classes couldn't already be used for (ie, druid, cleric, sorceror). Also, I figured no one would play as a Witch in my games either so I decided to not get one.

Turjan · Dec 2, 2002

The GR witch book is one of the best looking d20 books out there up to this date

. Well, I know, that's not really a main reason to buy a book, but anyway

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Okay, I like the contents as well and want to include a NPC witch coven into my campaign

. As far as PC's are concerned, I would recommend the class for a campaign that is based on more subtle magic, maybe mostly witches and shamans.

I can't comment on the other witch concepts out there, because the GR book is the only one I have. It's true that you can emulate the witch class with other core class concepts from the PHB. However, I still think the book was worth the buy.

Sanackranib · Dec 2, 2002

witch books

as I said I use 2 in my game . this spellcasting class IMO should have the most diverstiy so using more then 1 keeps the players guessing. and also adds more variety to the npc's.

IMO