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<blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 41141" data-attributes="member: 308"><p>Maybe this will clear it up.</p><p></p><p>The Rogue has Whirlwind attack and catches two guards flat-footed. He takes a full-attack action to WWA both guards. Since they are flat-footed, they both get sneak-attacked. This can't be done in a surprise round, as a surprise round is a partial action only (unless the Rogue is also a Weapon Master).</p><p></p><p>If the Rogue has a second weapon, i.e., two-weapon fighting, he gets one additional attack, which will also be a Sneak Attack.</p><p></p><p>If the guards have Combat Reflexes, it makes no difference, since they are still flat-footed. The Rogue isn't doing anything to provoke an AoO, so they won't get an AoO on the Rogue in any event.</p><p></p><p>If one of the targets dies from the Rogue's attack, he gets a Cleave on the other one. Since the second target is still flat-footed, this cleave attack is still a Sneak Attack.</p><p></p><p>That clear it up?</p><p></p><p>Of course, we're talking about a Rogue with a lot of Feats, so he's high level. We're also talking about two guards that don't have Uncanny Dodge, as that will change the dynamic as well.</p><p></p><p>Greg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zhure, post: 41141, member: 308"] Maybe this will clear it up. The Rogue has Whirlwind attack and catches two guards flat-footed. He takes a full-attack action to WWA both guards. Since they are flat-footed, they both get sneak-attacked. This can't be done in a surprise round, as a surprise round is a partial action only (unless the Rogue is also a Weapon Master). If the Rogue has a second weapon, i.e., two-weapon fighting, he gets one additional attack, which will also be a Sneak Attack. If the guards have Combat Reflexes, it makes no difference, since they are still flat-footed. The Rogue isn't doing anything to provoke an AoO, so they won't get an AoO on the Rogue in any event. If one of the targets dies from the Rogue's attack, he gets a Cleave on the other one. Since the second target is still flat-footed, this cleave attack is still a Sneak Attack. That clear it up? Of course, we're talking about a Rogue with a lot of Feats, so he's high level. We're also talking about two guards that don't have Uncanny Dodge, as that will change the dynamic as well. Greg [/QUOTE]
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