Whirtlestaff's Wizards' Academy Revisited, OOC01

[Leif]

i seem to have added his int mod on the second level here for a total of 16. I have checked every where and there is no allowence for int mod for second level and beyond on spells in the book, so i will remove three spells from the list and will annotate them by a slash through it. so sorry Leif.
An no, I was not no drugs. It was a brain fart, pure and simple.

Yeah int bonus only applies to spells at the start. Good thought, though! Maybe they'll work that change into 4e? hehehe

And I thought of a way that you can have druid/wizard collegiate Wizards! Start as a wizard and take Collegiate Wizard. When you earn xp for 2nd level, take it in the druid (or whatever) class. Third level is at your discretion, but, as I said initially, FOURTH character level needs to be in the WIZARD class, whether that makes you a 4th level wizard, 3rd level wizard, or 2nd level wizard (technically, it could be your 1st level as a wizard, but, if so, you won't be eligible for the Collegiate Wizard feat).

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

OK, a couple of questions.

First, while the description does state you must take Collegiate Wizard as a first level character, it doesn't say you have to be a Wizard to take it. It could be that one underwent 'extensive study' but happened to pick up a different class first (due to aptitude or some other reason). It's a stretch, I know, but I thought it worth asking about.

Second (in case the First question doesnt work out), you very generously and magnanimously gave us Collegiate Wizard as a bonus feat, so if we didn't take Wizard as our first class do we get a different bonus feat to replace it? Doesn't quite seem fair, otherwise . . .

 

[Leif]

First, while the description does state you must take Collegiate Wizard as a first level character, it doesn't say you have to be a Wizard to take it. It could be that one underwent 'extensive study' but happened to pick up a different class first (due to aptitude or some other reason). It's a stretch, I know, but I thought it worth asking about.
Second (in case the First question doesnt work out), you very generously and magnanimously gave us Collegiate Wizard as a bonus feat, so if we didn't take Wizard as our first class do we get a different bonus feat to replace it? Doesn't quite seem fair, otherwise . . .

Ok, I think we have both misunderstood something: You must be a first level wizard to take Collegiate Wizard, but it doesn't have to be first CHARACTER level. And, since it is awarded as a bonus feat, all characters are entitled to it when they enter the academy, regardless of whether they would normally have a feat coming then. That should make everything work out right, shouldn't it? If I am overlooking another problem, please tell me what it is, and we can talk about your proposal then. 'Zat cool wichu?

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

EXCELLENT! Saves my lazy butt from having to do all that thinkin' 'bout which spells to do away with - and since my butt's already overloaded from doing all my other thinkin' that makes it happy!

 

[Scott DeWar]

Oh great benevelant, generous and magnanimous one ...
zat ist cool vit me!

 

[Leif]

EXCELLENT! I aims ta pleeze.

 

[Leif]

I wouldn't be sticking a wand of shocking grasp into my breeches . Sounds painful.

Hey, who are we to judge how Max gets his jollies?!
Let's try to keep comments like this in the OOC thread, ok?

 

[Scott DeWar]

hey! I am an electrician, so i know shocking grasp first hand (pun intended) ! there are no jollies it that at all! (imho)

Edit (addendum) :

OOC: Well, I never heard of a wand working like that before, but your idea does fit with the spell, and it's a pretty cool idea, so I'll allow it! You might want to check with me first, next time, though...

Oh, and you need to modify your post to make it VERY CLEAR that you are spending a charge from your wand, as well. If you had made that clear I probably wouldn't have been confused. Using a wand takes more than just touching it, though. There is a command word involved, and stuff. You're post also doesn't mention a command word being spoken, but you can fix that in your edit.

BONUS RULING: We'll say that when you use the wand in this way, you need to spend the spell energy you get from the wand within ONE HOUR, or the charge just dissipates. As you say, it must be a melee touch, just shaking someone's hand won't cause the damage, unless, of course, that's how you WANT it to work. In other words, the spell energy must be INTENTIONALLY discharged within one hour's time, or else it dissipates and is lost.

I sent you an e mail, Leif, reguarding this.

david

 

[Leif]

The Great "Shocking Grasp" Controversy of 2008

In regard to the Shocking Grasp/Holding the Charge controversy created and perpetuated by Leif's quirkiness, let me just say that I have been advised of the Official ruling on the question and how it differs from my personal preference. I have presented the choice to the player whose character was at the heart of this question, and he said, he was cool with either way and he invited me to hurry up and make up my freaking mind about it. (Ok, not in those words, or anything, I'm exercising a little Poetic License here.) Anyway, before I do make up my mind I want to think about it more. So I'm gonna sleep on it for at least one night. Stay tuned...

 

[Scott DeWar]

... and any comments as to me being a rules lawyer i can only say this:

no comment.