Whirtlestaff's Wizards' Academy Revisited, OOC01

[KerlanRayne]

my original plan was to try and figure out a way to get a flying familiar large enough for Manny to ride. You ruled that out early on for Manny as a first level wizard, but if you know of a way to do it somewhat later I'd still like to consider that option as well.

OK, it was just a suggestion. You could possibly take Improved familiar to get a small Air Elemental at CL 5 which has a 100' perfect fly speed (COOL!). At CL 7 you might get an Air Mephit or maybe talk Leif into something similar. That's in core though, I'm not sure about other books.

 

[Leif]

Well... we wouldn't survive at Whirtlestaff's if we weren't devious now would we?

What makes you so sure that you will anyway??!!

 

[Leif]

Disadvantage to not playing Wizards often (or only twice in a lifetime) - little awareness of options available.

Leif, if you would be so kind as to look at the Alternative package and let me know if it's available at this stage, I'm interested but not committed, as my original plan was to try and figure out a way to get a flying familiar large enough for Manny to ride. You ruled that out early on for Manny as a first level wizard, but if you know of a way to do it somewhat later I'd still like to consider that option as well.

Manny will start cranking out Continual Lights (one/day) on whatever items party members wish them put on (just post a note here).

Yeah, the alternative package thing slipped by us both. WHOOOSH! Sounds like you may have to make a choice between that and the flying familiar. I remember, kinda, disallowing that at first level, but I'm not sure why. I'll probably allow it now if you want to go that way. And, like Kerlan said, if you take the alternative class feature, you can always select improved familiar as a future feat. At this point, I can't get my brain around an air elemental beiing able to carry Manny (it just defies logic -- as if an ELEMENTAL doesn't do that anyway!), but the mephit thing is always a possibility. But, regardless, we'll talk......

 

[Leif]

Mowgli: Tell me again how you manage to cast continual light?? Starting level was 4, and Manny has a +2LA, and with a rogue level, that just makes him a first level wizard. First level wizards can't cast second level spells. Your intel. bonus 2nd level spell only kicks in if you can cast spells of that level anyway. Am I forgetting something important?

 

[Leif]

As to the Immediate Magic idea, well it was just a suggestion. I said that you might let him but I know it's not a sure thing. It's the same alternative that I used, except that it's for a different specialization.

I know. It's all good. Just messin' with you.

 

[Scotley]

I can't suggest much for flying familiars in the core rules or even the extended books by wizards before at least 5th level. Now if you can pitch Leif on the idea of a non-wizard's book--ENWorld publishing did what I consider to be a reasonable job on the subject, Dweomercraft: Familiars. That includes the following feat:

Summon Exceptional Familiar (General)
Prerequisite: Spellcaster 3rd level
The familiar represents a more unusual breed of animal that is not typical of familiars and may also grant benefits different than normal.
Familiars associated with this feat would be: Badger, Boar, Cheetah, Eagle, Leopard, Lizard, Monkey, or Wolf.

This would allow you to select a small flying animal such as an Eagle, Great Grey Owl or even a seagull. They offer only modest gains over regular familiars with the big advantages being that they are small rather than tiny so you could ride. This larger size gives them some advantages as well as disadvantages in combat.

The book includes much more advanced familiars as well, but they don't come until higher levels.

 

[renau1g]

Just followin' the status quo then eh?

 

[Scotley]

We could definitely make Max a monster if we all cast spells on him. We could do something similar with Tylara as an archer with arrow mind, targeting ray, guided shot, magic weapon, true strike, cats grace and various protective spells.

However, I wonder if we might not be better served by letting Manny sneak in close and use sleep spells to take out the guards? I for one don't like the idea of storming a keep. Does anyone have invisibility?

Whelming Blast is decent area attack spell even though it only does non-lethal damage. It might be useful to share that one.

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

Mowgli: Tell me again how you manage to cast continual light?? Starting level was 4, and Manny has a +2LA, and with a rogue level, that just makes him a first level wizard. First level wizards can't cast second level spells. Your intel. bonus 2nd level spell only kicks in if you can cast spells of that level anyway. Am I forgetting something important?

Yeah, one of the reasons Manny has a +2LA is because he can cast Continual Flame, Dancing Lights, Mirror Image (3 images), Protection From Evil, and Ventriloquism once/day each as a spell like ability.

 

[Scott DeWar]

We could definitely make Max a monster if we all cast spells on him. We could do something similar with Tylara as an archer with arrow mind, targeting ray, guided shot, magic weapon, true strike, cats grace and various protective spells.

However, I wonder if we might not be better served by letting Manny sneak in close and use sleep spells to take out the guards? I for one don't like the idea of storming a keep. Does anyone have invisibility?

Whelming Blast is decent area attack spell even though it only does non-lethal damage. It might be useful to share that one.

sleep and whelming blast...those are giving me some tactile ideas... let me sleep on those.