Elder-Basilisk
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Of these spells, the ones worth extending are (IMO):
Almost certainly in 3e (although combining it with darkness is often considered cheesy). Possibly not in 3.5e if Blindsight is changed to blindsense and doesn't negate the 50% miss chance or allow precision targetting
Definitely in 3e. Reduced duration in 3.5e makes the utility of extend questionable at best.
Questionable in 3e as it is typically used for short duration situations. It could be helpful in certain situations.
Potentially useful to extend. Highly situational.
I'm unfamiliar with these and can't comment; noncore though.
Duration reduced.
Highly questionable spell in general and therefore not a good target for extend.
Unfamiliar with this; can't comment.
Not useful to extend as hour/level is probably 60 times as long as it ever needs to be active for anyway.
Highly questionable spell in general.
Duration reduced.
Benefit reduced twice (by DR changes and spell changes); still one of the best reasons to take Extend Spell though.
If you don't notice something after scrying for 13 hours, what good is another 13 hours of scrying?
Potentially devastating and therefore potentially worth extending.
This has the same potential as Darkvision.
This seems like a good spell to extend.
See Darkvision.
Depending upon how one interprets Suggestion this could be devastating or it could be useless. My interpretation of Suggestion (the duration is primarily the length of time a suggestion can lie dormant as per the knight giving his horse to the peasant) makes extending it useless.
Spell is of dubious usefulness already.
The will save makes this less useful at high levels.
Might be useful to extend.
In situations where it's useful, it's useful to extend it. But those are few and far between.
Duration reduced.
By the time you can extend it, it already lasts about as long as you could ride it without fatigue.
Unfamiliar with it.
This might have potential.
If it does what it looks like, it would be an excellent spell to extend.
Useless by my interpretation of the spell.
Unlikely to be useful.
Potentially useful
Animal Shapes would be a good one.
See Phantasmal Steed
An excellent choice for extend spell.
Largely unnecessary.
A very good use of the spell.
Unfamiliar with this.
Largely useless, extended or not.
One of the primary uses for Extend spell; possibly reduced in effect.
Spikes would be another excellent spell to extend
A very highly situational spell--it would be worth extending but it's probably not useful in enough situations for that to be a reason to take Extend Spell in most campaigns.
False life is definitely worth extending.
Another good use for extend spell.
Not a very useful spell to begin with.
A good use for extend spell
Would've been a great spell to extend but not with the 3.5e reduced duration.
This one lasts as long as you need it to (10-12 hours) by the time it can be extended.
A very risky spell to extend; movement limitations would also hamper this use.
Would be useful if it weren't limited by the number of trees moved through as well as duration.
This list ignored the 24 hour duration spells: (From memory)
Endure Elements
Mind Blank
Energy Buffer (T&B)
Energy Immunity (T&B)
All told, however, I think sor/wiz characters are left with the decision:
are Endure Elements, Energy Buffer, Energy Immunity, Mind Blank, Nondetection, Mage Armor, Greater Magic Weapon, False Life, Blindsight, Darkvision, and Prying Eyes (or a combination thereof) worth the feat to extend. I think the answer is likely to be "no" for most combat focussed characters with the possible exceptions of those who combine blindsight with deeper darkness.
For Druids and Clerics, the list is:
Endure Elements, Energy Immunity, Misdirection, Undetectable Alignment, Chain of Eyes, Wind Walk, Feathers, Spikes, Greater Magic Weapon, and Magic Vestment
The presence of Magic Vestment and Spikes make Extend a stronger choice for combat clerics than combat wizards but I don't think there's as much use as there might be for other feats.
Joshua Randall said:
Almost certainly in 3e (although combining it with darkness is often considered cheesy). Possibly not in 3.5e if Blindsight is changed to blindsense and doesn't negate the 50% miss chance or allow precision targetting
Definitely in 3e. Reduced duration in 3.5e makes the utility of extend questionable at best.
Questionable in 3e as it is typically used for short duration situations. It could be helpful in certain situations.
Potentially useful to extend. Highly situational.
I'm unfamiliar with these and can't comment; noncore though.
Duration reduced.
Highly questionable spell in general and therefore not a good target for extend.
Unfamiliar with this; can't comment.
Not useful to extend as hour/level is probably 60 times as long as it ever needs to be active for anyway.
Highly questionable spell in general.
Duration reduced.
Benefit reduced twice (by DR changes and spell changes); still one of the best reasons to take Extend Spell though.
If you don't notice something after scrying for 13 hours, what good is another 13 hours of scrying?
Potentially devastating and therefore potentially worth extending.
This has the same potential as Darkvision.
This seems like a good spell to extend.
See Darkvision.
Depending upon how one interprets Suggestion this could be devastating or it could be useless. My interpretation of Suggestion (the duration is primarily the length of time a suggestion can lie dormant as per the knight giving his horse to the peasant) makes extending it useless.
Spell is of dubious usefulness already.
The will save makes this less useful at high levels.
Might be useful to extend.
In situations where it's useful, it's useful to extend it. But those are few and far between.
Duration reduced.
By the time you can extend it, it already lasts about as long as you could ride it without fatigue.
Unfamiliar with it.
This might have potential.
If it does what it looks like, it would be an excellent spell to extend.
Useless by my interpretation of the spell.
Unlikely to be useful.
Potentially useful
Animal Shapes would be a good one.
See Phantasmal Steed
An excellent choice for extend spell.
Largely unnecessary.
A very good use of the spell.
Unfamiliar with this.
Largely useless, extended or not.
One of the primary uses for Extend spell; possibly reduced in effect.
Spikes would be another excellent spell to extend
A very highly situational spell--it would be worth extending but it's probably not useful in enough situations for that to be a reason to take Extend Spell in most campaigns.
False life is definitely worth extending.
Another good use for extend spell.
Not a very useful spell to begin with.
A good use for extend spell
Would've been a great spell to extend but not with the 3.5e reduced duration.
This one lasts as long as you need it to (10-12 hours) by the time it can be extended.
A very risky spell to extend; movement limitations would also hamper this use.
Would be useful if it weren't limited by the number of trees moved through as well as duration.
This list ignored the 24 hour duration spells: (From memory)
Endure Elements
Mind Blank
Energy Buffer (T&B)
Energy Immunity (T&B)
All told, however, I think sor/wiz characters are left with the decision:
are Endure Elements, Energy Buffer, Energy Immunity, Mind Blank, Nondetection, Mage Armor, Greater Magic Weapon, False Life, Blindsight, Darkvision, and Prying Eyes (or a combination thereof) worth the feat to extend. I think the answer is likely to be "no" for most combat focussed characters with the possible exceptions of those who combine blindsight with deeper darkness.
For Druids and Clerics, the list is:
Endure Elements, Energy Immunity, Misdirection, Undetectable Alignment, Chain of Eyes, Wind Walk, Feathers, Spikes, Greater Magic Weapon, and Magic Vestment
The presence of Magic Vestment and Spikes make Extend a stronger choice for combat clerics than combat wizards but I don't think there's as much use as there might be for other feats.
