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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9598872">They are all influenced by their era. No movie exists in a vacuum. But even something like Tomorrow Never Dies, which is obviously bringing in Michelle Yeoh because of her role in movies like Police Story 3, doesn't look or feel like the Police Story Movies. And granted those are two totally different approaches to film production, so this might be a poor example. But then compare a View to a Kill to Commando (think those came out the same year even). Completely different in their action (and again Commando was clearly influenced by the first Police Story, but that feels nothing like it). I don't mind influence and being of its time (if it's an 80s Bond movie, I expect some 80s-isms). I just don't want to feel like it is trying to be other action movies from that era. I feel like with Craig they were more like: let's do a grounded and serious Bond film that feels more like a real action movie (and I get Bond films are real action movies but I think for many decades people filed them in another box and graded them a bit differently than other types of action film: i.e. you let Bond get away with things you'd expect other action heroes to be killed for doing)But the second Dalton movie had a guy killed by an automatic sliding door and a shark in a tank the bad guy fed people to. Yes Moore was very 70s, but you wouldn't confuse that action with Dirty Harry. And Connery is setting the stage for other action films so they aren't aping them, they are paving the way (Enter the Dragon for example is an attempt to blend the kung fu genre with Bond). I think the difference for me with all these movies is they still feel distinct to me. Whereas I often confuse the Craig era with all kinds of other action movies from that time in my memories I think not only is this not true, I don't even think this is what they were going for. I think they wanted a bold break from Bond tradition with Craig and as much as Craig isn't my favorite Bond, I have to admit they succeeded. Just look at some of the praises people in this thread give the action. It is more realistic, it is more grounded. The tone is way more gritty and real. That feels like a very sharp break from Bond tradition (and I think that is why of people would defend the Craig era).</blockquote>

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