Who eats the XP loss when an efreeti grants [i]wishes[/i]?

[Scupper]

According to the MM, an efreeti can grant 3 wishes per day to nongenies. Does the wish XP loss come into play when this ability is used? If so, who eats it, the efreeti or the recipient?

Also, am I reading this right - that efreeti can grant wishes but djinn can't? Haven't these guys ever seen Aladdin?

 

[Thanee]

I don't think spell-like or supernatural abilities have XP costs.

Bye
Thanee

 

[CRGreathouse]

According to the MM, an efreeti can grant 3 wishes per day to nongenies. Does the wish XP loss come into play when this ability is used? If so, who eats it, the efreeti or the recipient?

Also, am I reading this right - that efreeti can grant wishes but djinn can't? Haven't these guys ever seen Aladdin?

If anyone lost XP, it would be the caster. In this case, though, no one loses XP (see MM page 7).

Edit: Oops, Thanee beat me to it.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

According to the MM, an efreeti can grant 3 wishes per day to nongenies. Does the wish XP loss come into play when this ability is used? If so, who eats it, the efreeti or the recipient?

Also, am I reading this right - that efreeti can grant wishes but djinn can't? Haven't these guys ever seen Aladdin?

A noble djinn can grant three wishes to any being, too.

I don't know if there's an XP cost involved at all. After all, it's a special spell-like ability to GRANT them. As I interpret the wish spell, you burn those XP 5000 to gain access to the wish. A powerful being - maybe a genie - will then turn up and give you your wish. It won't cost them anything.

But that's just my tuppence about that

 

[Scupper]

Well, here's my problem, then:

I've got an NPC villain who has an efreeti ally. Most of their appearnces are in between-section fictional bits I email out to the group. In one of them, it's established that the efreeti casts wish for the villain to repair some damage the PCs have done. He's also used a wish to cast teleport without error for the villain, and to set up the villain with a contingency/teleport "get out of jail free"-type defense.

Problem is, what if the PCs encounter the NPC and the efreeti at the same time? The efreeti could, theoretically, cast any three eighth level spells for the NPC, at caster level 18, requiring the NPC to use only a free action ("I wish you'd polymorph any object that fighter into a ficus tree," "I wish you'd horrid wilting those PCs over there," "I wish you'd summon 1d3 bebiliths to clean up what's left of the party.")

All of this from a CR 8 creature?

On the other hand, if somebody has to eat the XP loss, three wishes in one day is going to break the bank for almost anybody.

 

[Vaxalon]

Feel free to adjust the CR for any creatures that have access to unusual levels of power.

IMC when you bind an Efreet (the only way to get it to serve you) it serves until it has provided three wishes... then it's no longer bound, and is free to rip you a new one.

 

[kreynolds]

I've got an NPC villain who has an efreeti ally. Most of their appearnces are in between-section fictional bits I email out to the group. In one of them, it's established that the efreeti casts wish for the villain to repair some damage the PCs have done. He's also used a wish to cast teleport without error for the villain, and to set up the villain with a contingency/teleport "get out of jail free"-type defense.

Problem is, what if the PCs encounter the NPC and the efreeti at the same time? The efreeti could, theoretically, cast any three eighth level spells for the NPC, at caster level 18, requiring the NPC to use only a free action ("I wish you'd polymorph any object that fighter into a ficus tree," "I wish you'd horrid wilting those PCs over there," "I wish you'd summon 1d3 bebiliths to clean up what's left of the party.")

Efreeti are infamous for many things, one of which includes their "hatred of servitude". So, it begs the question...why is this guy even serving your NPC villain in the first place? I don't mean to sound condescending or anything, but going by the monster description, I just don't see an Efreet willingly granting so many wishes to someone, let alone "serving" them. Perhaps this is actually your problem?

 

[Scupper]

He's not really serving him, is the thing. They are allies working toward a goal they both benefit from.

The real question, though, which is why, if an efreeti can grant wishes to a non-efreeti, it wouldn't get ahold of a non-efreeti to grant them to. It can always choose not to grant a wish, so basically all it needs is a channel through which it can do its thing.

 

[AuraSeer]

If spell-like abilities don't cost XP...
can an epic wizard take Innate Spell to get infinite Wishes with no XP cost?

(Where's the "horrified astonishment" smiley?)

 

[IceBear]

This one?