:( Who else is unhappy that XP comments are now showing up in the post?

[vagabundo]

It's an abomination, burn it with fire!!

Seriously, it is like I have some whispering voices in my head commenting on the posts I'm reading - it's unnatural I tell ya.

 

[covaithe]

Having the comments in line could be a problem for PbP games. Previously it was possible to reward or comment on particularly noteworthy in-character posts using forum xp. Now, having those comments show up in an in-character thread? Ick. I certainly won't be using them that way any more, and I'd be annoyed if other people used them in my in-game threads.

Would it be possible to hide comments for a single thread, or even for a whole subforum? (I'm thinking about Living 4th Edition, here.)

 

[wedgeski]

I actually LIKE xp comments in the post. Saves me the effort of posting to say "+1 rep for (such and such)."

I do like the inline comments. This hadn't occurred to me but makes me approve of them even more.

 

[freyar]

I'm just curious about something, if Morrus or other admin/mod has the statistics: has the rate of XP giving gone up since the inline comments turned on? It seems to me like many posts are getting XP for that "me too" effect, and I had no idea that people had been using XP for that purpose. Or have I just been naive about the whole XP thing?

 

[vagabundo]

It is also being used to insert - usually negative - comment directly into another's post. Not what was intended with the XP system. Perhaps it would be better to get rid of the comment and just have XP received from poster X.

Example: http://www.enworld.org/forum/5143787-post27.html

I still dont like it.

 

[TerraDave]

I am NOT a fan.

-I have made XP comments I do not want read
-I think others have done the same
Just take this thread, I don't think half of these need or should be seen
-It changes how they are used. I might no longer just give it since I like the post, but instead as a comment on that post. I will probably stop giving XP as long as the system is in place.
-The smileys--annoying.

 

[Rykion]

I'm firmly on the side of not having the xp messages show up in a thread. It really looks like it could pile up in arguments. It also adds at least a little more work for the mods. What starts out as a perfectly reasonable reply can end up seeming like a flame with the xp messages.

 

[Seonaid]

Haha, I was looking for a thread to comment about this very topic . . . but on the opposite. I really like them showing up. I agree that perhaps they should be in a spoiler block of some sort, and completely disagree about the link idea discussed above (and proposed by frankthedm). That kind of negates the purpose of having them inline at all.

Now the comments become part of the discussion, whether that was the intent or not.

This is exactly why I like it.

Maybe give the person adding XP a choice via a drop down selection when posting the xp: 'show in post' (default) and 'don't show in post' (which would make it viewable only if someone is viewing the profile). Perhaps even add a third one: 'private only' - viewable only by the receiver.

This could be a compromise . . . but I don't like it because, again, I feel it defeats the purpose.

Getting rid of the nodding yes men smiles would be good too.

Particularly since all rep is positive. If it was possible to give negative (which I think is a Really Bad Idea), then it would make more sense.

Personally, I don't think that comments are necessary. The ability to say "I approve of your post" by giving XP is enough.

With regard to what should be visible: I think having a "XP count" would be valuable. So, "3 people have given XP to this post" or similar. (The BGG system has the number appear next to the recommendation thumb, and you can click on the number to see who has given XP).

This also would be a good compromise, as it kind of serves the original intent (that I imagine, anyway). I don't think, in this case, that having the link to see who gave XP is necessary though, if there are no comments. Possibly nice, but not necessary.

Thanks for reading! I really like this addition.

 

[Nifft]

I really like them showing up.

After seeing them in use for another day, I've come to like them even more.

Good things encouraged by the new system:
- XP used to mess with people. Why is this good? Because being messed with is a direct indicator of your involvement with the community, and if XP measure means anything -- which it might not -- community involvement is a fine thing for it to mean.
- XP used for "me, too". This is good because it saves me from reading the sigs of people who say "me, too".
- XP used as mini-reviews of posts. This is actually kinda nice, and could provide some useful information. I think the search results page should show rep value (e.g. "8+/1-") for found posts. I'll bet that the posts which are searched for are often highly rep-valued.
- It's part of the conversation.

Bad things discouraged by the new system:
- Giving XP to a post that is subject to moderation. You publicly look like a dick for posrepping a contentious post. This is a good change, because contentiousness ought not be rewarded.

Bad things encouraged by the new system:
- I see a lot more begging for rep, now that people actually remember rep exists. IMHO mods ought to negrep for this. Not take any kind of official red-text moderator action, but if they can negrep, that would make begging counter-productive, and that would stop it from happening.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Seonaid]

I see a lot more begging for rep, now that people actually remember rep exists. IMHO mods ought to negrep for this. Not take any kind of official red-text moderator action, but if they can negrep, that would make begging counter-productive, and that would stop it from happening.

Meh. It wouldn't help as much as one might hope. Negative attention is still attention.