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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gromm" data-source="post: 216524" data-attributes="member: 2245">Rogue is a really bad class to throw into this. They either are very effective, or utterly screwed. If flanking they are great, though realisitically not for long unless they can somehow avoid getting smacked around. If they aren't flanking they can't do anything.Lets assume the fighter types have a 18 str and the rogue a 18 dex and weapon finesse. Both fighters have greatswords, the rogue a rapier. Lets also assume level 10 characters (just to pick a level). All classes started with 16s and put both points in the primary stat. Fighter and Barb have PowerAttack (whereas the rogue took Weapon Finesse). The Fighter is specialized with his weapon. Everyone has MW weapons (no magic). We'll give the Rogue a Str of 12 (+1). Both fighters will Power Attack to keep the same attack as the rogue (to remove a variable, not exactly perfect I know).Rogue (in flanking position):BAB +7/+2Flank +2Dex +4MW +1For a total of +14/+9 Damage 6d6+1 (Avg 22) per hitBarbarian (Raging)BAB +10/+5Flank +2Str +6MW +1For a total of +19/+14Power Attack +5Damage 2d6+14 (Avg 21) per hitFighter BAB +10/+5Flank +2Str +4WpnFocus +1MW +1For a total of +18/+13Power Attack +4Damage 2d6+12 (Avg 19) per hitSo the Rogue wins by a point. This assumes they all have an equal chance of hitting. Against an opponent with high AC the fighter and barbarian will easily take the lead since they will probably hit with both attacks, and the rogue will be lucky to hit with one (though they'll be doing a few less points of damage).So in the perfect situation the rogue can fight as well as a fighter type. Given that its not always the case the Barb does more damage than a fighter in the same situation, and both are vastly superior to the rogue one-on-one or where flanking/criticals don't apply.</blockquote>

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