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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 651595" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Lisa: Probably the first person who said, "I'm not drawing these animals on the walls of the cave jut to have fun, I'm doing it to create art." provoked much the same response. Roleplaying is interesting in that the elements that make it up: extemporaneous drama and comedy, writing, story telling, illustration, and so forth are virtually unchallenged as art. If someone challenges that illustration and extremporaneous comedy is not art - we generally see them as pretensious artsy fartsy types that believe that art does not belong to the masses. The position is like arguing that Chopin is art, but a group of musician around a camp fire singing songs is not art, and a group of musicians in a bar making extemporaneous melodies isn't art either.</p><p></p><p>When we combine these elements of story telling, illustration, acting and so forth and use them to entertain each other, it is interesting that not only is it 'just a game', but those that would suggest that they are art are labelled pretentious. I guess your point is that art isn't something that you interact with or create. Or maybe your point is that you don't want to be under any particular pressure to create art for fear of being judged by some standard. Or maybe your point is that role playing is a juvenile activity, and when you role play you are merely slumming or letting your hair down and acting childish. Whatever your point is, perhaps you should express it in a way that is a little more considerate of the opinions of others.</p><p></p><p>For my part, I find roleplaying entertaining precisely because it is art. Role playing is to me, a grand affectation which a group of friends do for thier mutual amusement. It is a more grown-up play pretend, which hopefully does not divorse itself from the childish but wholesome goal of fun. And I personally think it likely that the first play which was ever put on by man, was not on a stage written by some author, but was a group of young and young heart people playing dress up and telling a story. If it differs from the affectation of modern art, it is only in that it is more natural affectation. Role playing is closer to who we are as people, than the snobbish affectations of the 'art scene' and are more quickly dropped when 'the game' is over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 651595, member: 4937"] Lisa: Probably the first person who said, "I'm not drawing these animals on the walls of the cave jut to have fun, I'm doing it to create art." provoked much the same response. Roleplaying is interesting in that the elements that make it up: extemporaneous drama and comedy, writing, story telling, illustration, and so forth are virtually unchallenged as art. If someone challenges that illustration and extremporaneous comedy is not art - we generally see them as pretensious artsy fartsy types that believe that art does not belong to the masses. The position is like arguing that Chopin is art, but a group of musician around a camp fire singing songs is not art, and a group of musicians in a bar making extemporaneous melodies isn't art either. When we combine these elements of story telling, illustration, acting and so forth and use them to entertain each other, it is interesting that not only is it 'just a game', but those that would suggest that they are art are labelled pretentious. I guess your point is that art isn't something that you interact with or create. Or maybe your point is that you don't want to be under any particular pressure to create art for fear of being judged by some standard. Or maybe your point is that role playing is a juvenile activity, and when you role play you are merely slumming or letting your hair down and acting childish. Whatever your point is, perhaps you should express it in a way that is a little more considerate of the opinions of others. For my part, I find roleplaying entertaining precisely because it is art. Role playing is to me, a grand affectation which a group of friends do for thier mutual amusement. It is a more grown-up play pretend, which hopefully does not divorse itself from the childish but wholesome goal of fun. And I personally think it likely that the first play which was ever put on by man, was not on a stage written by some author, but was a group of young and young heart people playing dress up and telling a story. If it differs from the affectation of modern art, it is only in that it is more natural affectation. Role playing is closer to who we are as people, than the snobbish affectations of the 'art scene' and are more quickly dropped when 'the game' is over. [/QUOTE]
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