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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 653788" data-attributes="member: 9045"><p></p><p></p><p>Alright, the part about laughing behind his back was read into this I suppose, by the tone and level of confrontationalism above. As far as the other things I'd said about it; betraying the faith in you to keep your word as you gave it to him and then (at least giving the impression in your second encounter in the scenareo) take pleasure in having gone back on that word, and having obviously had that intention when you falsly said you would not. I'm only addressing this scenareo that you provided, not neccesarilly you yourself or anything.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Under normal circumstances I'd take this as a hell of a nice thing to have said about me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, your request -- or stated opinion -- or blatant insistence -- that he seek some form of emotional help because you cannot understand why he has some form of attachment that you do not share (his character). </p><p>Your use of the word "pretend" over and over seemed like an obvious attack upon this poor theoretical shlub who you seem to feel is beneath you for some reason.</p><p></p><p>[/b]</p><p></p><p>Again, it just seems like your attempting to be childish over an issue that this theoretical player has stated bothers him, and in which you have no attachment one way or the other. You have made it plain that you consider forming an attachment to a character on any level to be a sign of emotional issues in need of therapy, so you obviously don't care one way or the other about the character. The player states he does care. That means his feeling are vulnerable and yours are not, and you put forth that you would chose to purposefully hurt his feelings when you clearly didn't need to. At least that is how it read (and still reads) to me, and I think that's wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well I hope for the sake of good-will and all that you're right, but I quoted quite carefully, and I still don't see where I misunderstood.</p><p></p><p>[/b]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How am I role-playing here? I defined how I view a character, and I think that backed up that statement fairly well. If my character is, in essence, me while I was roleplaying it, then anyone trying to roleplay a character that is supposed to be that same character is just trying to do an imitation of me. And they usually do a bad one (of me, or most people). I dislike people doing bad impersonations of me, even if it's Me-as-someone-else-I-made-up, because it colors the opinions of strangers in regard to me. </p><p>I'll even give an example. The Game: Champions, When: About 12 years ago. The guy who's GMing GMs a campaign world he used to play in years before, in another state. I meet sh'loads of ex-PCs now NPCs. From the way he plays them, their old players must have been monty-haul thoughtless apes who just enjoyed wrecking the previous GMs world and taking over. Fast Forward a few years, and I actually meet one or two of those old players, on of whom turns out to be a great role-player, not at all monty-haul, and the best GM I've ever gamed with. The first guy completely gave a bad impression of this guy just by role-playing his old PC badly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 653788, member: 9045"] [i][/i] Alright, the part about laughing behind his back was read into this I suppose, by the tone and level of confrontationalism above. As far as the other things I'd said about it; betraying the faith in you to keep your word as you gave it to him and then (at least giving the impression in your second encounter in the scenareo) take pleasure in having gone back on that word, and having obviously had that intention when you falsly said you would not. I'm only addressing this scenareo that you provided, not neccesarilly you yourself or anything. [b][/b] Under normal circumstances I'd take this as a hell of a nice thing to have said about me. :P [b][/b] [i][/i] [b][/b] No, your request -- or stated opinion -- or blatant insistence -- that he seek some form of emotional help because you cannot understand why he has some form of attachment that you do not share (his character). Your use of the word "pretend" over and over seemed like an obvious attack upon this poor theoretical shlub who you seem to feel is beneath you for some reason. [/b] Again, it just seems like your attempting to be childish over an issue that this theoretical player has stated bothers him, and in which you have no attachment one way or the other. You have made it plain that you consider forming an attachment to a character on any level to be a sign of emotional issues in need of therapy, so you obviously don't care one way or the other about the character. The player states he does care. That means his feeling are vulnerable and yours are not, and you put forth that you would chose to purposefully hurt his feelings when you clearly didn't need to. At least that is how it read (and still reads) to me, and I think that's wrong. [b][/b] Well I hope for the sake of good-will and all that you're right, but I quoted quite carefully, and I still don't see where I misunderstood. [/b] [i][/i] How am I role-playing here? I defined how I view a character, and I think that backed up that statement fairly well. If my character is, in essence, me while I was roleplaying it, then anyone trying to roleplay a character that is supposed to be that same character is just trying to do an imitation of me. And they usually do a bad one (of me, or most people). I dislike people doing bad impersonations of me, even if it's Me-as-someone-else-I-made-up, because it colors the opinions of strangers in regard to me. I'll even give an example. The Game: Champions, When: About 12 years ago. The guy who's GMing GMs a campaign world he used to play in years before, in another state. I meet sh'loads of ex-PCs now NPCs. From the way he plays them, their old players must have been monty-haul thoughtless apes who just enjoyed wrecking the previous GMs world and taking over. Fast Forward a few years, and I actually meet one or two of those old players, on of whom turns out to be a great role-player, not at all monty-haul, and the best GM I've ever gamed with. The first guy completely gave a bad impression of this guy just by role-playing his old PC badly. [/QUOTE]
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