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Message: <blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 2969753" data-attributes="member: 25619">Agreed.  They shouldn't just show up randomly.I don't really have a Gandalf, but the PC's do have a patron, sort of.  He's a druid of Odin, and advisor to the ruler of their land.  Basically, he's the old guy in a cloak (literally) who sometimes gives them (and other adventurers) missions and helps (reluctantly and at a cost) with training and special needs like a Remove Curse.  He's only ever found at the castle in the capital, and I never stat'd him out -- probably about 10th level.Perhaps more Gandalf-like is the dragon in the basement of the castle.  She's a retired PC from a previous campaign in the same setting, once a paladin and reincarnated as a gold dragon.  Most of the time, she sleeps in the basement, guarding the secret gate to an allied kingdom.  But once, when the PC's were facing a major assault at a castle and sent a runner and a bird with a message, the help that was sent was a cavalry detachment, with the dragon flying in first as a "first responder".  The Gandalf-like things she did is take aside the highest level PC -- a ranger, a bit Aragorn-like -- and tell him a bit about the background of what was going on, and ask him to report to her and keep it a secret.Oh, and in Oriental Adventures, I had a flying, talking carp in a well of a haunted castle.  He was pretty much like the "Dungeon Master" character from the cartoons, giving lots of advice when asked.  He was very well liked.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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