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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8670859" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't agree at all, sorry.They're wrong, and we've known from people testing armour experimentally since the 1980s at the latest, that they're wrong, and sure, people make the same bad argument over and over and over, but that will literally never make that argument right, no matter how long time continues, no matter how many times the argument is made. There are a lot of similar situations in the world, where people repeat "received wisdom" that they've never made any attempt to engage with critically, nor been intellectually curious enough to look into, and that's not a good thing. It is in fact, a bad thing.It was definitely a balance thing, given the AC bonus limit was introduced in 3E, which introduced a lot of balance changes, including essentially infinitely scaling DEX bonuses, and some incredible ability to stack bonuses generally.In AD&D, the speed limit thing was just ignorance. I mean, you know how I know, for sure, that we knew all this? I had an argument with my biology teacher when I was 12 in 1990. I remember it to this day because it was one of the first times I won an argument with a teacher (or an adult at all). He was talking about how humans can copy the biological systems of other animals through tools/equipment, but we always end up with an inferior version (which is like, mostly but not entirely true), and he cited how knights couldn't get into the saddle whilst wearing plate, and had to be winched into the saddle, and couldn't run/vault in plate generally. I was fresh off reading some history book, and I had to be like "Uh sir, no, that's wrong." and cited the book, and he was a good guy so accepted this correction after I explained the source. But at that point, in 1990, a child like me know that you could run, and vault in plate, and get into a saddle, and that it only weighed about the same as much as the full backpack British soldiers carried in the 1980s/1990s (which was about 70lbs), or even less.This is information that predated 3E, and I don't buy that people like Jonathan Tweet, that giant nerd, didn't know it. Which means it essentially had to be a balance/aesthetic choice, and people defending it on the ground of "realism" were just doing that "fan" thing where they defend something even though it doesn't make sense.</blockquote>

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