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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8670902" data-attributes="member: 18">Whilst that is an amusing maxim, I'm not sure I buy it in this case, because this was 2000, and by then it was well-known that armour didn't significantly slow you down. Also, can't it be both? Bad design/designer error and attempt at balance?3.XE was absolutely stuffed to the brim with stuff that they both intended as balancing measures, and which was bad design. I mean, I don't really re-litigate the whole of 3.XE here, but like, there was a LOT of it, tons of Feats, tons of weapons, tons of PrCs, and so on were just really badly designed whilst containing poorly-conceived stuff intending (and frequently failing) to make them balanced.3E was &quot;Simulationism Edition&quot;, but it was also &quot;Needless Complexity Edition&quot; and &quot;D&amp;D's First Baby Steps At Balance Edition&quot; (which, ironically, ended up less balanced than 2E, I'd argue).I guess on the gripping hand we have to factor in that Jonathan Tweet is kind of an, well, I think the word is &quot;nitwit&quot; to the point where he got involved with scientific racism and nonsensical cop-aganda and ended a man's whole career - his own. So maybe he did just believe some very dim things re: armour?Gymnastics literally means &quot;naked exercise&quot; though.I mean, that doesn't mean you're totally wrong, but I think you need pretty modern materials before one becomes wrong on that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8670902, member: 18"] Whilst that is an amusing maxim, I'm not sure I buy it in this case, because this was 2000, and by then it was well-known that armour didn't significantly slow you down. Also, can't it be both? Bad design/designer error and attempt at balance? 3.XE was absolutely stuffed to the brim with stuff that they both intended as balancing measures, and which was bad design. I mean, I don't really re-litigate the whole of 3.XE here, but like, there was a LOT of it, tons of Feats, tons of weapons, tons of PrCs, and so on were just really badly designed whilst containing poorly-conceived stuff intending (and frequently failing) to make them balanced. 3E was "Simulationism Edition", but it was also "Needless Complexity Edition" and "D&D's First Baby Steps At Balance Edition" (which, ironically, ended up less balanced than 2E, I'd argue). I guess on the gripping hand we have to factor in that Jonathan Tweet is kind of an, well, I think the word is "nitwit" to the point where he got involved with scientific racism and nonsensical cop-aganda and ended a man's whole career - his own. So maybe he did just believe some very dim things re: armour? Gymnastics [I]literally[/I] means "naked exercise" though. I mean, that doesn't mean you're totally wrong, but I think you need pretty modern materials before one becomes wrong on that. [/QUOTE]

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