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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8670927" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>There's no reason to believe that he would have to "break into a jog", that doesn't make sense. I'm confused as to why you'd suggest that. That's not how stuff works. If I'm hauling a heavy backpack and my friend is carrying nothing, I don't have to "break into a jog" to keep up, I just tire faster and I couldn't sprint was fast (well, or if I did, I'd go out of control because the extra weight wouldn't be something I could properly account for, esp. as a backpack). You don't have to "jog" to go the same speed in plate any more than you have to "jog" to go the same speed carrying shopping. Your stride length is roughly the same. You'll tire a lot sooner is the main difference. There will be some difference because you're having to push up harder during that part of your stride, but as long as you're reasonably fit that's mostly just going to result in you tiring more rapidly. And we know from archaeology that knight-types tended to be appallingly super-fit.</p><p></p><p>LOL!</p><p></p><p>Jesus dude, maybe finish the post before jumping to conclusions.</p><p></p><p>I get that this is apparently SHOCKING INFORMATION to you, and you're apparently in weird denial about it, but this is pretty basic stuff, and you don't seem to have a great grasp on biomechanics, based your proposed experiment up there, so I don't think you should maybe being as pushy about this as you are.</p><p></p><p>As I've said repeatedly, people have been studying this since at least the '80s, probably earlier. The '80s is when I'm first aware of it being a whole "thing" though. I don't believe it because I've magically decided it for no reason, I'm not sure why you seem to think that. I believe it because I've come across quite a bit on it.</p><p></p><p>PS people dancing in full plate was requested I believe:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]Nw8F2_jnuKw[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>He's got more - the dude isn't super-fit but you can see what works (mobility) and what doesn't (endurance and the inertia issues).</p><p></p><p>This includes climbing a rock wall, a somersault and an upside-down ladder:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]q-bnM5SuQkI:137[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>That dude is a lot fitter than the dance guy I admit.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - There's also been a bunch of testing done with chain and whatever you wanna call lamellar/scale/brigandine (a lot of disagreement about names), but it's not as glam so it's not as easy to find.</p><p></p><p>Ohh this guy ran a 5K in chainmail and wow that doesn't seem fun:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]V2WotqqFcJA[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>Here's a nice one:</p><p></p><p>Obstacle course - firefighter gear vs full plate vs modern military</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]pAzI1UvlQqw[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8670927, member: 18"] There's no reason to believe that he would have to "break into a jog", that doesn't make sense. I'm confused as to why you'd suggest that. That's not how stuff works. If I'm hauling a heavy backpack and my friend is carrying nothing, I don't have to "break into a jog" to keep up, I just tire faster and I couldn't sprint was fast (well, or if I did, I'd go out of control because the extra weight wouldn't be something I could properly account for, esp. as a backpack). You don't have to "jog" to go the same speed in plate any more than you have to "jog" to go the same speed carrying shopping. Your stride length is roughly the same. You'll tire a lot sooner is the main difference. There will be some difference because you're having to push up harder during that part of your stride, but as long as you're reasonably fit that's mostly just going to result in you tiring more rapidly. And we know from archaeology that knight-types tended to be appallingly super-fit. LOL! Jesus dude, maybe finish the post before jumping to conclusions. I get that this is apparently SHOCKING INFORMATION to you, and you're apparently in weird denial about it, but this is pretty basic stuff, and you don't seem to have a great grasp on biomechanics, based your proposed experiment up there, so I don't think you should maybe being as pushy about this as you are. As I've said repeatedly, people have been studying this since at least the '80s, probably earlier. The '80s is when I'm first aware of it being a whole "thing" though. I don't believe it because I've magically decided it for no reason, I'm not sure why you seem to think that. I believe it because I've come across quite a bit on it. PS people dancing in full plate was requested I believe: [MEDIA=youtube]Nw8F2_jnuKw[/MEDIA] He's got more - the dude isn't super-fit but you can see what works (mobility) and what doesn't (endurance and the inertia issues). This includes climbing a rock wall, a somersault and an upside-down ladder: [MEDIA=youtube]q-bnM5SuQkI:137[/MEDIA] That dude is a lot fitter than the dance guy I admit. EDIT - There's also been a bunch of testing done with chain and whatever you wanna call lamellar/scale/brigandine (a lot of disagreement about names), but it's not as glam so it's not as easy to find. Ohh this guy ran a 5K in chainmail and wow that doesn't seem fun: [MEDIA=youtube]V2WotqqFcJA[/MEDIA] Here's a nice one: Obstacle course - firefighter gear vs full plate vs modern military [MEDIA=youtube]pAzI1UvlQqw[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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