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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6239762" data-attributes="member: 92511">I'd love to, but given that anything I could point him toward would result in a google/wikipedia search makes this unlikely. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />yes. Exactly. And I ffeel it is something that cannot be ignored in the formation of 5e...and I seriously doubt WotC is ignoring it...Yes. exactly. We absolutely are.Gods forfend...but I fear, if we don't destroy ourselves first, this might be true.I didn't say "it" was. I was saying there is a distinct difference in cultural "now" and expectation than there was when we started. I'm still waiting for the flying car! The Jetsons told me I'd have that...and I'm PISSED I don't yet. Though I think the car folding up into the briefcase is riiiight about here. lol.Oh, absolutely! you want to get started on the the whole "I'm OCD! I'm ADHD!" nonsense. Guess what? The entire world existed for centuries and centuries, millenia even, without you losing focus...and you didn't 30 years ago! SWACK! "PAY ATTENTION!" No medication needed. I doubt I could write much more without jeopardizing the whole "no talking about modern world/events" thing.No argument here. Spot on.Tell the designers that think computer games are the "kewlest thing evar!" They don't want to believe us. My point exactly. 5e can not win! It can't satisfy the "us" of 30 years ago and the "them" of the late 90's+ . WotC must pick ONE and aim for that. THEN, maybe then, it can succeed.A-F--IN-MEN! The designers would do well to remember...or at least acknowledge that.Ayup! Again, no argument here. but, I suppose, part of my point is, does the generation<s> who grew up on video games HAVE the capacity to notice or appreciate that anymore? I certainly HOPE so. But I cannot say.</s><s></s><s></s><s></s><s>I certainly share this hope, but I am afraid that worldly concerns will win out.</s><s></s><s></s><s></s><s>It will be, Mercurius. It will be until "we" all die off. "We" will create new OSR games. "We" will instruct others in the "way it was." "We" will be on forums stating the "yay" or "naye" of D&D 17.5 After that...gods help D&D and the rpg industry. But rest assured, it shall outlive us both.</s><s></s><s></s><s></s><s>My apologies to you [and everyone reading this] if I rambled at all. The vino is kicking in. It's practically Spain where I live...there's no such thing as an empty glass. lol. I hope I've been equally eloquent and not at all offensive to anyone. ;P</s></blockquote>

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