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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6239780" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>LOL, no doubt. Your boyfriend sounds like one of my high school students (ha ha).</p><p></p><p>Seriously though, I love Google and Wikipedia but not as The Source of All Knowledge. I tell my students that they can (and even should) use Wikipedia, but think of it more as a gateway to other sources, not as the final destination. But Wikipedia is actually a rather legit encyclopedia these days, but like a book encyclopedia from my era, it only skims the surface.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No doubt, I hear you. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I hear that - but its actually very relevant to the discussion at hand, because we're talking about the way technology and media impacts imagination, which is the primary apparatus in D&D.</p><p></p><p>At the school I work at we're at a bit of a loss with how to navigate this domain. Some of the old guard would be happy with making it a technology-free campus (its a very small private school), while "moderates" such as myself would like to utilize the technology to <em>augment </em>learning and imagination, not replace it.</p><p></p><p>The key, in my opinion, is balance. What we see now is "too much of a good thing" and, like you say later on, its only going to get more extreme.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I know. I really see computer games and tabletop RPGs as being opposite poles on a spectrum, so it irks me when designers want to "computerize" the tabletop experience. Again, I'm not opposed to <em>augmentation - </em>like monster builder or MasterPlan, that sort of thing. But when it starts veering into everyone having a tablet in front of them with a virtual battlegrid...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And my view is that it should look to satisfy "us" first and foremost, and build from that. Its like trying to serve too many masters. Or trying to pretend you're something that you're not. It doesn't work. Be what you are - and for D&D, that means a game of imagination, of theater-of-mind.</p><p></p><p>I'm not opposed to "D&D: the MMORG" or "Warmaster: the D&D battle game." All that could be lots of fun. But I'd like to keep tabletop D&D "untainted," so to speak, at least at its core.</p><p></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>In my experience with my students, yes - definitely so. I'd even say that they're <em>hungry </em>for it, in a way that you or I might be hungry for a good fantasy novel after weeks of just watching movies. There's something about going inward, about generating imagination, that is so much more <em>deeply </em>satisfying. </s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>But it is more difficult to get there. It is so much easier to turn on the tube, fire up the laptop, or grab the iPhone instead of facing the empty spaciousness of now...but the thing is, that is where true creativity comes from.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I think the great Louis CK said it really well <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8E8wQhseA" target="_blank">here.</a></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I agree, at least for the foreseeable future and/or the majority. But I also think that more and more people will want to "wake up" from the virtual dream and re-embrace the real. The movie <em>Logan's Run</em> comes to mind.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Yeah, I think so. My feeling is that the form of RPGs has so much potential that has been untapped, and that it could actually be a positive cultural and educational force. For instance, I incorporate world building into classes - even have had an elective course on it, which the students love.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Its been fun! Nice saying, by the way. I saw you're in Andorra. Are you Andorran? You "sound" American. If so, why Andorra?</s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6239780, member: 59082"] LOL, no doubt. Your boyfriend sounds like one of my high school students (ha ha). Seriously though, I love Google and Wikipedia but not as The Source of All Knowledge. I tell my students that they can (and even should) use Wikipedia, but think of it more as a gateway to other sources, not as the final destination. But Wikipedia is actually a rather legit encyclopedia these days, but like a book encyclopedia from my era, it only skims the surface. No doubt, I hear you. Yeah, I hear that - but its actually very relevant to the discussion at hand, because we're talking about the way technology and media impacts imagination, which is the primary apparatus in D&D. At the school I work at we're at a bit of a loss with how to navigate this domain. Some of the old guard would be happy with making it a technology-free campus (its a very small private school), while "moderates" such as myself would like to utilize the technology to [I]augment [/I]learning and imagination, not replace it. The key, in my opinion, is balance. What we see now is "too much of a good thing" and, like you say later on, its only going to get more extreme. Yeah, I know. I really see computer games and tabletop RPGs as being opposite poles on a spectrum, so it irks me when designers want to "computerize" the tabletop experience. Again, I'm not opposed to [I]augmentation - [/I]like monster builder or MasterPlan, that sort of thing. But when it starts veering into everyone having a tablet in front of them with a virtual battlegrid... And my view is that it should look to satisfy "us" first and foremost, and build from that. Its like trying to serve too many masters. Or trying to pretend you're something that you're not. It doesn't work. Be what you are - and for D&D, that means a game of imagination, of theater-of-mind. I'm not opposed to "D&D: the MMORG" or "Warmaster: the D&D battle game." All that could be lots of fun. But I'd like to keep tabletop D&D "untainted," so to speak, at least at its core. [s] In my experience with my students, yes - definitely so. I'd even say that they're [I]hungry [/I]for it, in a way that you or I might be hungry for a good fantasy novel after weeks of just watching movies. There's something about going inward, about generating imagination, that is so much more [I]deeply [/I]satisfying. But it is more difficult to get there. It is so much easier to turn on the tube, fire up the laptop, or grab the iPhone instead of facing the empty spaciousness of now...but the thing is, that is where true creativity comes from. I think the great Louis CK said it really well [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8E8wQhseA"]here.[/URL] I agree, at least for the foreseeable future and/or the majority. But I also think that more and more people will want to "wake up" from the virtual dream and re-embrace the real. The movie [I]Logan's Run[/I] comes to mind. Yeah, I think so. My feeling is that the form of RPGs has so much potential that has been untapped, and that it could actually be a positive cultural and educational force. For instance, I incorporate world building into classes - even have had an elective course on it, which the students love. Its been fun! Nice saying, by the way. I saw you're in Andorra. Are you Andorran? You "sound" American. If so, why Andorra?[/s] [/QUOTE]
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