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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6240019" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Hmm. This smacks dangerously close to language police. I think you're missing the other side of it that, first of all, your issue with my language is based upon a misunderstanding of my intention and usage, which even upon clarification you wouldn't back down on. Furthermore, I disagree that I was using "failure" in a "factually incorrect" manner. First of all, I was expressing a <em>subjective perspective</em> - which isn't about "facts" as much as it is about opinion. The word "failure" seems correct for how I used it. I gave very specific parameters for what I meant, and you keep turning it into something else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But why did it devolve? And what part did you play in that? You're taking no responsibility, putting it entirely on my word usage. </p><p></p><p>A word has a charge depending upon how it is used and how we interpret it. It isn't enough, in my opinion, to say "I took issue with your word usage, so please use different words." If we're going to engage in meaningful dialogue there has to be <em>some </em>flexibility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Man, you've got to stop telling me what my intentions are! Can you see how condescending that is? "What you're actually trying to do is this." No, I'm not. You have the right to not believe me, or even to think that I have some sub-conscious agenda, but that's not going to get us very far and, in the end, you're just railing against a strawman. This, I think, is the main (although not only) reason "edition wars" are started - by people that falsely accuse others of edition warring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6240019, member: 59082"] Hmm. This smacks dangerously close to language police. I think you're missing the other side of it that, first of all, your issue with my language is based upon a misunderstanding of my intention and usage, which even upon clarification you wouldn't back down on. Furthermore, I disagree that I was using "failure" in a "factually incorrect" manner. First of all, I was expressing a [I]subjective perspective[/I] - which isn't about "facts" as much as it is about opinion. The word "failure" seems correct for how I used it. I gave very specific parameters for what I meant, and you keep turning it into something else. But why did it devolve? And what part did you play in that? You're taking no responsibility, putting it entirely on my word usage. A word has a charge depending upon how it is used and how we interpret it. It isn't enough, in my opinion, to say "I took issue with your word usage, so please use different words." If we're going to engage in meaningful dialogue there has to be [I]some [/I]flexibility. Man, you've got to stop telling me what my intentions are! Can you see how condescending that is? "What you're actually trying to do is this." No, I'm not. You have the right to not believe me, or even to think that I have some sub-conscious agenda, but that's not going to get us very far and, in the end, you're just railing against a strawman. This, I think, is the main (although not only) reason "edition wars" are started - by people that falsely accuse others of edition warring. [/QUOTE]
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