Why are the blurbs on fantasy novels so god-awful?

nikolai said:
Why? I was in a bookshop today and they're all dire. It seems like the publishing companies are using a random generator or something. You can't tell one book apart from any of the others, it seems like most of them have identical plots or back stories. Yuck.
I can tell you exactly why the cover copy and blubs on SF & Fantasy books are so awful. At the major publishers, cover copy is usually written by people who either don't know or don't care about the books. Simple as that.

While working at HarperPrism, I saw this practice over and over and over again. The copy-writer would come by and ask for a quick summary of the book so she could write the flap or jacket copy. By quick summary, she usually was asking "what are the main charaters names, who are the villans, and what is the major conflict?" Thats it. She would write the copy, send it to the editors who whould re-write it to actually resemble to book in some way and send it back. She would re-write it again, usually to make it short enough to fit the cover of the book, and then send it to the marketing department who would re-write it yet again in order to have it appeal to the widest market possible, and in the process dilute it once more. Finally, when the cover proofs would go around for final approval, those of us in editorial who had actually read the book would make changes once more to try to make it resemble the novel.

Yes, its a dreadful system, but thats what happens when you have to sell a novel in less than 200 words, and you are dealing with a copy-writer who is not only writing copy for SF novels that she hasn't read, but most likely also writing copy for mystery novels, exercise books, sports books, and self-help books. Seriously. Our copy department was working on books of all types, and there is no possible way for them to read them all. One person may be responsible for writing copy for more than 15 books each day.

I wrote copy for several of the novels I editied, in order to make the copy actually sound good, and to stand out and actually work for the novel. Each and every time, I was told "Thats too specific, you are writing it for too small a market. Make it more general." Over and over again. Marketing and Sales departments want to have something to work with that they can throw down on the table and say "You want to stock this book in your store because it is just like X but has the characteristics of Y and all the action of Z" and go on to the next title in the catalog. Simplest way to do that is to make the cover copy sound just like all the other cover copy thats out there.
 

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CL: Really interesting to hear an insider's perspective. I've got humor/horror stories about friends' experiences with cover art, and it sounds like about the same level of care goes into back-cover text.

JoeBlank: Danke -- I'll check it out.

Tonguez: Clarification question. You said that you used to read a lot of fantasy, but you haven't any good "modern" fantasy lately. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that you've been unimpressed by most fantasy written in the past few years, or that you've been unimpressed by most fantasy that takes place in a modern setting? There's a sizeable difference. :)

The novel I'm getting ready to send out takes place in modern-day America, and the novel that's currently sitting with agents takes place in Victorian London. I like 'em both, but then, I did write 'em. :)

If the issue is that no good fantasy has been written in the past few years, that's different -- and frankly, I don't agree with you. I've had my share of misses, but I've had my share of hits, too. The reason that Tolkien is still getting read these days is because he was a once-in-a-lifetime writer. Comparing him to modern-day writers is unfair, not because he's so much better than anyone who writes today, but because he's the only shining star who's stood the test of time. It's like the people who watch Casablanca and then say that modern cinema sucks. Casablanca was one of a whole bunch of movies made that year, and comparing the one movie that stood the test of time to all the movies made this year that likely won't stand the test of time is an unfair comparison. There were a whole lotta cheap-ass popcorn flicks made back then, too.

I also agree with what you said about it possibly being you changing as a person. David Eddings doesn't do it for me anymore -- and he's what got me into fantasy in the first place. I don't love his language, I think there's something a little too smug and self-satisfied in most of his dialogue, and so forth. But that doesn't mean I didn't love those books and stay up far too late reading them at the time.

To hit the problem in a different way -- what are your qualifications for "Books I might consider giving a try"? I've had some hits and misses, and some of my hits might be hits for you -- and heck, some of my misses might be hits for you, too. :)
 

takyris said:
CL: Really interesting to hear an insider's perspective. I've got humor/horror stories about friends' experiences with cover art, and it sounds like about the same level of care goes into back-cover text.
Yes, there are plenty of horror stories to go around. ;) Not to get too off topic, I've got one that may be my favorite, due to lack of communication between editors, art directors, and artists. The book was Guy Gavriel Kay's Sailing to Sarantium (the name is an allusion to W.B.Yeats Sailing to Byzantium, which heavily influenced the book). The artist requested to read the book, or at least several chapters, so he would have something to work from. I gave the art director a copy of the manuscript to send to the artist, and he said he would send the artist some relevent chapters with some ideas that were discussed in our weekly "cover meetings." A few weeks later, we got the artwork back just before deadline, only to find that it pictured the main character on the deck of a ship in the middle of the ocean, wind blowing through his hair. That was interesting, to say the least, since he never sets foot on a boat in the book (the title refers to a journey, not actually sailing on a ship). Some quick work was needed to remedy this, so the art was sent back to the artist with a revised deadline and instructions to redo the painting, only to be told that he didn't have the time as he was working on several other commissions. It was worked out between the art director and the artist to make some revisions to the existing work and to use some carefully considered editing and cropping of the painting, and we would make do. What we ended up with is what made the cover of the American edition of the novel (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0061059900/ref=lib_dp_TFCV/104-1246813-0288748?v=glance&s=books&vi=reader#reader-link). Not a bad cover, but still not really an acurate representation of the book. All of this could have been avoided, had the art director sent the manuscript to the artist as requested, instead of only sending a few pages from the beginning that gave the main characters physical description. For some reason, I don't think the character has a beard in the book either, but that was considered too hard to repaint on short notice, so it was left on.
 
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Most fantasy sucks. I've read a lot of fantasy through the few years of my life and
what fantasy really needs is some more mediocre stuff. Fantasy seems to suck or
rawk, there's no middle road. Well, there is, but it's really narrow. Fantasy is stuck
in it's trappings. Most writers seem to simply want to make their own versions of
the classics instead of doing something original.
 

Viking-mon, Sturgeon's Law, Sturgeon's Law, Viking Man.

Fantasy is at least partially stuck in its trappings because the stuff that's different tends to sell poorly. That's not an absolute rule, and I'm trying to write stuff that bucks the trend, but if beautiful thin singing elves and dour grumpy stoic dwarves didn't sell, they wouldn't keep publishing them. So look for the stuff that's different. If you want suggestions, holler.
 

Thanks for the interesting insight, Cthulhu's. I'll never look at that cover the same way again.

Cthulhu's Librarian said:
For some reason, I don't think the character has a beard in the book either, but that was considered too hard to repaint on short notice, so it was left on.
I believe Crispin is forced to shave his beard before he meets with the Emperor, as beard-wearers are perceived as barbaric in Sarantium.
 

takyris said:
Viking-mon, Sturgeon's Law, Sturgeon's Law, Viking Man.
90% of everything is crap? Right?

Well, I've always taken that as that as 90% of everything ranges from pure
crap to mediocre, while the remaining 10% ranges from pretty good to brilliant.
My point is that 99% of fantasy is just god-awful crap. I suspect it's mainly
because so few people are trying to publish fantasy stuff when compared to,
say, detective stories, that the bar is fairly lower. As hard as it is for a sucky
writer to publish fantasy it's probably much harder for a bad mystery writer to
get published since he has so much competition, leaving us with more 'meh!'
stuff and less 'urghl!'.
 

I think the problem may not be that Fantasy novels are largely bad, but that most novels in general are largely bad and we are just more familiar with the failings of the Fantasy genre.

If you go to the fantasy section at Borders & grab 50 random books, two or three of them will be any good to someone who knows something about the genre & is familiar with the seminal works everyone is aping. That is what everyone here seems to be commenting on.

I would put it to you that if you went to the romance section and grabbed 50 random books, maybe two or three would be any good in the eyes of someone familiar with thatgenre. I would bet the same could be said of Sci-Fi, historical fiction, crime/mystery, political thrillers, and so on.
 

Pants said:
It's even worse when you read the book in question and the blurb barely resembles the plot of the book. Winter's heart and Crossroads of Twilight, I'm looking at you here :D

Never read those. But from what I heard about them, if they put " Nothing happens to advance the plot" on the back, no one would by them.
 

Mark said:
:D Haven't read those but I do get a kick out of you calling them on the carpet... :D
I call them out on a lot of things :p

KenM said:
Never read those. But from what I heard about them, if they put " Nothing happens to advance the plot" on the back, no one would by them.
That's what I hope :D
 

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