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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6240011" data-attributes="member: 48965">Texicles I can only speak for myself... and I won't say I am of the generalized "balance is bad" group... but I think the fact that one of 4e's main touted selling points was how tight the math was and how balanced the game was supposed to be (which I don't think it actually is but that's a discussion for another time).  On top of that many people during the 3.x era had made imbalance one of, if not the number one, complaint against D&D at the time... and finally also add to that the fact that for many people this "balanced" edition of D&D was the least fun edition they had ever played... and you've got a recipe where for many, any focus on balancing the game ends up reminding us these complaints got us 4e... and that was not a good thing. I think the problem is many of us didn't like the way 4e went about "balancing" the game and it's left a bad taste in our mouth when the cries of "balance!!" start to rising up again.  For many of us, a "balanced" game has become secondary to a game we actually enjoy and have fun playing.  Is it a knee jerk reaction, maybe but I would say after 4e WotC has kind of earned it (at least from those of us who didn't enjoy 4e).  I'd also cite that many of the examples of balanced games (such as HeroQuest as cited numerous times by @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a>) have so little resemblance to the D&D that I want and enjoy that I don't care how balanced using them as a model would make the game, for D&D play it won't be a fun game for me or my group and that's what matters most to us.EDIT: Perhaps to make this post a little more useful... I don't think many are down for just proclaiming "balance needs to be fixed"... we been there, done that and when we left it in general terms for WotC to fix didn't get something we enjoyed.  I think the only way "fix the balance!!" isn't going to draw this reaction from a portion of the fanbase is for there to be specifics that can be judged on their own merits.  Like I said, for me I'm not looking for D&D HeroQuest edition, or D&D FATE edition or D&D Marvel Heroes rpg... I've played or read each of these games and while they may be good games in their own right for certain playstyles... they are definitely too narrow as far as their supported playstyles go, to be what I am looking for in a D&D experience.</blockquote>

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