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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6243194" data-attributes="member: 42582">This doesn't really fit my own experience. The fighter in my game has social skills around +13. If he was trained in Intimidate it would be +18. The paladin is around +30 in Diplomacy and Initimidate, and the Sorcerer is similar in Bluff. Those are noticeable differences.That's not to say the fighter is hopeless - he participates in social skill challenges, and from time to time succeeds at checks - but he's definitely and very noticeably stronger in physical contexts!I'm not 100% sure if KM is disagreeing with what Neonchameleon says, but what Neonchameleon says is definitely correct!As per the 4e DMG, p 74:they [may] use a different skill, if they can come up with a way to use it to contribute to the challengeThis is the 4e version of the genre/credibility test from HeroQuest revised and Marvel Heroic RP.This looks like some sort of Lazy Warlord or perhaps a non-magical bard variant.Two responses.First, it's up to you to stipulate whatever you want, including about Samwise's player, but as an inference I don't accept the inference from "S/he built a PC who supports rather than fights" to "S/he is not interested in participating in combat encounters". Because I've had players who've built support-type PCs who do want to participate in combat encounters, by way of support.Second, if someone really isn't interested in combat as a noteworthy site of conflict resolution then I think D&D is not the best game for them.</blockquote>

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