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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 6245117" data-attributes="member: 43019">My fighter never Athletics-ed up a king cause Athletics happened to be his best skill, but some of his most memorable moments were interaction checks using Insight and Diplomacy. And my bard sure is light years ahead of my fighter at Diplomacy, barely on the same die, but that doesn't mean I didn't get to shine several times in pure interaction challenges.Reminds me of a barbarian who was scared to make a Charisma based check so wanted to use Endurance to get an NPC drunk - which I totally let her do, but I _also_ had her make a Cha-based check, which she did quite well on and with the bonus I gave from her Endurance, she made a life-long friend, accomplishing the task. Every class in 4e can think about the type of challenges they're likely to run into and take skills related to interaction, exploration, and survival such that they are not a hindrance and might be a life saver. So, yeah, they _can_ shine in any encounter, if they put their mind to it.Oh, and skill challenges should also never ever be that Baron complexity 5 12 success Diplomacy (and Intimidate autofails) monstrosity. Cause yeah, I played one lof those once, as the party face. And we RPed a bunch, everyone made some checks, and then I just picked up several d20 and rolled the remaining Diplomacy checks all at once cause the SkC part was irredeemably stupid (and the DM hadn't gotten the hint to move along).</blockquote>

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