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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1035858" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>Of course he's making a fair tradeoff there. Like I said, you're unlikely to have ALL high stats. If you can say "well, I can get away with a lower dex", then you're boosting con and survivability. Hell, you could even put that 24+ into strength, and look at a strength bow (which are now unlimited in the amount of bonus they can have)</p><p></p><p>Opposed checks are the standard mechanic for comparing two individuals performance at something. I can think of any number of situations where a gm might call for an opposed ride check.</p><p></p><p>The ride check is an opposed roll means that 23 ranks could potentially be outdone by someone with +3 to hit.</p><p>IF you have a regular horse, it will get smacked down by an archer. Which is why any character who's really into mounted combat doesn't ride a normal off-the-rack horse, and that means they need to train something else.</p><p></p><p>Do your friends regularly carry you around on their backs all day? Would you expect to be able to use a "helpful" NPC as a mount? Would you expect said NPC would immediately pick up the art of responding quickly to your control?</p><p></p><p>No. Didn't think so. If it's in handle animal, and you don't have handle animal, you can't do it.</p><p></p><p>Which still doesn't help you if you have no ranks. Handle animal is ALMOST a trained-only skill.</p><p></p><p>You're the one who started out comparing apples to oranges.</p><p></p><p>I don't know about you, but my 3.5 SRD has rules for prices and training of the following creatures in the MM:</p><p>Giant eagle</p><p>Griffon</p><p>Hippogriff</p><p>Howler</p><p>Giant Owl</p><p>Pegasus</p><p>Spider eater</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, handle animal specifies any creature with an int of 1 or 2 may be trained using the skill, albeit at a penalty of +5 to the DC. That gives you quite a wide range of possible mounts.</p><p></p><p>Any DM who says "no - horses only" is, quite frankly, being an ass.</p><p></p><p>Sure, if a fighter specialises in a weapon, he's a specialist. Did that really need saying? However he's not nearly as much a specialist as most of your PrC's. If you're only willing to pursue one tree of feats, then of course you're going to run out of things to spend your feats on. Just like if you don't see a point in combat feats at all, you're not going to want to play any of the combat classes.</p><p></p><p>Fighter = combat generalist. Noone else does combat generalist as well as he.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1035858, member: 5890"] Of course he's making a fair tradeoff there. Like I said, you're unlikely to have ALL high stats. If you can say "well, I can get away with a lower dex", then you're boosting con and survivability. Hell, you could even put that 24+ into strength, and look at a strength bow (which are now unlimited in the amount of bonus they can have) Opposed checks are the standard mechanic for comparing two individuals performance at something. I can think of any number of situations where a gm might call for an opposed ride check. The ride check is an opposed roll means that 23 ranks could potentially be outdone by someone with +3 to hit. IF you have a regular horse, it will get smacked down by an archer. Which is why any character who's really into mounted combat doesn't ride a normal off-the-rack horse, and that means they need to train something else. Do your friends regularly carry you around on their backs all day? Would you expect to be able to use a "helpful" NPC as a mount? Would you expect said NPC would immediately pick up the art of responding quickly to your control? No. Didn't think so. If it's in handle animal, and you don't have handle animal, you can't do it. Which still doesn't help you if you have no ranks. Handle animal is ALMOST a trained-only skill. You're the one who started out comparing apples to oranges. I don't know about you, but my 3.5 SRD has rules for prices and training of the following creatures in the MM: Giant eagle Griffon Hippogriff Howler Giant Owl Pegasus Spider eater Furthermore, handle animal specifies any creature with an int of 1 or 2 may be trained using the skill, albeit at a penalty of +5 to the DC. That gives you quite a wide range of possible mounts. Any DM who says "no - horses only" is, quite frankly, being an ass. Sure, if a fighter specialises in a weapon, he's a specialist. Did that really need saying? However he's not nearly as much a specialist as most of your PrC's. If you're only willing to pursue one tree of feats, then of course you're going to run out of things to spend your feats on. Just like if you don't see a point in combat feats at all, you're not going to want to play any of the combat classes. Fighter = combat generalist. Noone else does combat generalist as well as he. [/QUOTE]
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