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<blockquote data-quote="Feaelin" data-source="post: 1038556" data-attributes="member: 1614">Hmm.&nbsp; I think I'm in the latter category.&nbsp; But not every time.&nbsp; I heat up frozen burritos because a flavorful meal takes time and effort.&nbsp; I'm lazy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.&nbsp; Fortunately, the wife objects to &quot;our daily burrito&quot;, so I'm *cough* &quot;encouraged&quot; *cough* to fix better meals than microwave meals...To bring this on topic, I figure the same problem applies to the &quot;making the fighter flavorful&quot;.&nbsp; It can take more time and effort (or more thought)&nbsp; to make a fighter flavorful, and I'm sure I'm not the only lazy person out there...I'm inclined to think that every class can become &quot;bland&quot; if the player chooses not to imbue them with flavor, or lets the &quot;stereotype&quot; for the class suck them in.&nbsp; The wizard has a vast (hmm. someone spell repetoire for me!) of spells..how often are the same narrow few selected for the spells you &quot;learn&quot; at level-up?&nbsp; The same with the fighter, you can keep choosing the same feats for every fighter (or even every combat class), or start going in different directions.&nbsp; My last wizard, I noted that there were very few &quot;water&quot; spells.&nbsp; I decided that he would have &quot;thing&quot; for water spells, and most of his spell choices were driven by that.&nbsp; I did relax my &quot;rule&quot; to extend it to &quot;ice&quot; and was startled to find that many of the spells I ended up selecting were more potent than I had realized.&nbsp; Admittedly, a tough creature with a cold immunity could ruin my day, but that's the way it goes! I imagine we can come up with a foil for every class...that's why adventurers travel in packs...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It's both puzzling and entertaining for me to read this thread.&nbsp; Puzzling, because it would never have occurred to me that the fighter was &quot;weak&quot; or &quot;unplayable&quot;.&nbsp; However, the differing points of view (and some of the rhetoric!) has certainly kept me entertained this evening!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Feaelin, post: 1038556, member: 1614"] Hmm. I think I'm in the latter category. But not every time. I heat up frozen burritos because a flavorful meal takes time and effort. I'm lazy! :). Fortunately, the wife objects to "our daily burrito", so I'm *cough* "encouraged" *cough* to fix better meals than microwave meals... To bring this on topic, I figure the same problem applies to the "making the fighter flavorful". It can take more time and effort (or more thought) to make a fighter flavorful, and I'm sure I'm not the only lazy person out there... I'm inclined to think that every class can become "bland" if the player chooses not to imbue them with flavor, or lets the "stereotype" for the class suck them in. The wizard has a vast (hmm. someone spell repetoire for me!) of spells..how often are the same narrow few selected for the spells you "learn" at level-up? The same with the fighter, you can keep choosing the same feats for every fighter (or even every combat class), or start going in different directions. My last wizard, I noted that there were very few "water" spells. I decided that he would have "thing" for water spells, and most of his spell choices were driven by that. I did relax my "rule" to extend it to "ice" and was startled to find that many of the spells I ended up selecting were more potent than I had realized. Admittedly, a tough creature with a cold immunity could ruin my day, but that's the way it goes! I imagine we can come up with a foil for every class...that's why adventurers travel in packs...;) It's both puzzling and entertaining for me to read this thread. Puzzling, because it would never have occurred to me that the fighter was "weak" or "unplayable". However, the differing points of view (and some of the rhetoric!) has certainly kept me entertained this evening! [/QUOTE]

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