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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8659295" data-attributes="member: 6799660">When the game was first envisioned, they could have done all sorts of things with each of these monsters*. The folklore is very open to interpretation -- a silver bullet is the way to kill a werewolf, but is that because they are immune to everything else**, or because silver does extra damage and they are 4 HD creatures (meaning it's the only likely way a 1 hd commoner is ever going to win against them)? Both werewolves and vampires vary from story to story in how badass they are, and it would have been perfectly possible for a badass werewolf to have been one with a small amount of innate power and a large number of levels or HD. *among many others. Trolls, for instance, even when specifying the Three Hearts and Three Lions version, could have been anything representing rapid healing. The version we got (regenerate any non-fire/acid HP damage) is super-specific and could have easily been anything else.**counterpoint: most D&Ds have rules for higher level monsters being able to bypass silver or magic weapon resistance based on HD, even if their attacks aren't specifically coded as magical.Regardless, that's a reasonable position to take, but then be prepared for the downstream consequences. Game balance, in general, is a priority that gets disproportionate digital ink on forum discussions and gaming think-pieces and the like. The PC that gets great stat rolls or is the one Str-based melee character when the Vorpal greatsword drops is also going to be, to a lessor or greater degree, more powerful (especially if compared to the other PC that rolled a 1 on their most recent level up HP roll). The game keeps running with imbalances. However, I understand the desire to keep those imbalances to a dull roar and why the huge benefit* of these new forms can be seen as an issue.*it should also be said that immunity/regeneration to damage from non-silvered, non-magical weapons isn't as overpowered as the thread has implied. There is a lot of damage out there not of that type (especially as level goes up) -- there are just a lot of cases where that damage does come up, and it's notable when they stop being a threat (especially to only some of the PCs). D&D has made a number of decisions that could have gone multiple ways, went with one, and now has to lie in the bed it made. Individual groups can choose to adhere to those decisions, or come up with alternate solutions. We don't play in the same circles, but I know plenty of people who would like a 'playable' werewolf race (balanced against other PC race options, that is. Probably not identical to the shifter, but in the same vein. I also know a number of groups that have had werewolves and such and not had an issue.</blockquote>

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