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why do we not have an arcane half caster?
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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8199839" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Okay... so tell me what is the "in-world" identities of the</p><p></p><p>Gish</p><p>Spellsword</p><p>Swordmage</p><p>Eldritch Knight</p><p>Duskblade</p><p>Magus</p><p></p><p>...besides just "warrior that casts wizard spells"?</p><p></p><p>You ask me what a Paladin is, I'll give you a whole heap of "in-world" identity of what it is besides "warrior that casts cleric spells". The Paladin actually has a job in the game world. Likewise... I can tell you all the things a Ranger is in addition to "warrior that casts druid spells". Because a Ranger <em>is</em> a thing to be.</p><p></p><p>But what does a Spellsword <em>do</em>? What is their function in the game world? Because if you can't come up with a compelling STORY for the class... it ain't gonna stick-- as we have seen all those times before where all those so-called "classes" showed up once, were barely embraced, and then never showed up again.</p><p></p><p>Heck... THE WARLORD has more juice right now in the game as a class than any of those arcane warrior half-casters do. Because the Warlord actually has somewhat of a story. They are military tacticians and strategists that lead, organize, or enhance the combat strength of small arms parties up through full armies. But then again... the whole reason why this class hasn't actually appeared in 5E is because some people back at WotC don't even feel like THAT story is <em>enough</em> to warrant being its own class-- they still think the Fighter can in many ways handle that story. And while some players keep clamoring for it because they want different and new MECHANICS for this class... new mechanics have never been the reason for a new class to be made.</p><p></p><p>As I said above... the fighter, rogue, cleric and wizard are the only four classes that are and get to be generic. Because those are the Core Four classes in the game. Any other class beyond those that is going to be embraced by the D&D populace at large HAS to have more than that. It has to have a reason for its existence beyond "new mechanics".</p><p></p><p>Because we have seen time and time again what happens when we don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8199839, member: 7006"] Okay... so tell me what is the "in-world" identities of the Gish Spellsword Swordmage Eldritch Knight Duskblade Magus ...besides just "warrior that casts wizard spells"? You ask me what a Paladin is, I'll give you a whole heap of "in-world" identity of what it is besides "warrior that casts cleric spells". The Paladin actually has a job in the game world. Likewise... I can tell you all the things a Ranger is in addition to "warrior that casts druid spells". Because a Ranger [I]is[/I] a thing to be. But what does a Spellsword [I]do[/I]? What is their function in the game world? Because if you can't come up with a compelling STORY for the class... it ain't gonna stick-- as we have seen all those times before where all those so-called "classes" showed up once, were barely embraced, and then never showed up again. Heck... THE WARLORD has more juice right now in the game as a class than any of those arcane warrior half-casters do. Because the Warlord actually has somewhat of a story. They are military tacticians and strategists that lead, organize, or enhance the combat strength of small arms parties up through full armies. But then again... the whole reason why this class hasn't actually appeared in 5E is because some people back at WotC don't even feel like THAT story is [I]enough[/I] to warrant being its own class-- they still think the Fighter can in many ways handle that story. And while some players keep clamoring for it because they want different and new MECHANICS for this class... new mechanics have never been the reason for a new class to be made. As I said above... the fighter, rogue, cleric and wizard are the only four classes that are and get to be generic. Because those are the Core Four classes in the game. Any other class beyond those that is going to be embraced by the D&D populace at large HAS to have more than that. It has to have a reason for its existence beyond "new mechanics". Because we have seen time and time again what happens when we don't. [/QUOTE]
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