Why do you think warforged = robots?

[Tetsubo]

I like the Warforged. They just fall short of being *more* construct-like for my tastes... I want machine like beings. Fantasy robots with souls... the ghost in the machine...

 

[Mouseferatu]

Okay, so what I'm getting here is that the situation is not what I thought it was.

*What I thought: People didn't think of prior golems, or even sentient constructs, as robots, but some people did think of warforged as robots.

*What appears to actually be the case: Most of the people who view warforged as robots did think of prior sentient constructs as, if not robots, at least robot-like, but they were never a big enough issue for the topic to come up. (Or, they never thought of the prior examples as robots purely because they never paid them much heed, and would have thought of them that way had the subject ever arisen.)

Does that seem accurate? Am I reading you folks correctly?

It's interesting, if so, and I'm wondering why I didn't consider the possibility... (Not that I was losing any sleep over it, regardless. But I've definitely been curious.)

 

[Psion]

As tools/minions/obstacles, yes, there is a long tradiiton of such in fantasy. As sentient characters? Not so much,

Yes, as sentient characters. And these are OLD books I am referring to here, so I think it's fair to say the tradition is long.

Regardless, even if these books didn't exist or you have never read them, why is D&D forbidden to innovate? When someone does something like, oh, write a book about a wizards academy set in the modern world, is it all the sudden "not fantasy" because it has not been done in fantasy before? Or an anti-hero in an ocean that leads to myriad worlds?

 

[Shayuri]

For a player wanting to play a robot in D&D this fits the bill.

...guilty as charged. I have a warforged warmage that I conceptualized pretty much as a robot, and am playing pretty much as a robot. Magic robot, but yeah. Robot.

Can't help it. They look like robots. As noted by others, they even have robotlike themes to their mindset. They have robotlike resistances and immunities.

Personally, I think they're neat. But I wouldn't include them casually into every fantasy genre game I played or ran. They need to be integrated into a setting's story (as they are for Eberron).

Color all this with the fact that I've never been against mixing fantasy and sci-fi.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Color all this with the fact that I've never been against mixing fantasy and sci-fi.

Oh. You're one of those...

 

[delericho]

They look like robots. That's enough for me.

I don't mind Warforged in the slightest, though. They don't fit in every campaign setting, but that's true of all races.

 

[Glyfair]

Warforged are constructed beings, generally of humanoid form, able to do all the stuff you expect a humanoid to be able to do. An "android" is a mechanism designed to emulate a human in looks in behavior. Seems a good fit to me. The only difference is the 'technology" that allows them to operate. The end result is the same.

So, out of curiosity, does the middle one meet the criteria of a "robot" or "android"?

When you watched the Wizard of Oz did you wonder why there was a robot there?

I don't disbelieve the case, I'm just curious.

 

[Rystil Arden]

So, out of curiosity, does the middle one meet the criteria of a "robot" or "android"?

When you watched the Wizard of Oz did you wonder why there was a robot there?

I don't disbelieve the case, I'm just curious.

I always thought it was because the robot symbolised the supposedly soulless (but actually not) factory workers who will team up with the supposedly brainless (but actually smart) farm workers who become the new ruler and the supposedly cowardly (but actually not) William Jennings Bryan to use the magic of a silver standard to make everything right, even though the president doesn't really have magical powers and is just a man like everyone else.

 

[Oryan77]

I don't know squat about Warforged, but I was wondering....

Are Warforged simply construct types? If so, how do they heal? It seems like it would be hard to play as a PC if you can't heal.

 

[Mouseferatu]

I don't know squat about Warforged, but I was wondering....

Are Warforged simply construct types? If so, how do they heal? It seems like it would be hard to play as a PC if you can't heal.

They're constructs, with the "living construct" subtype. And healing is a hassle.

They never heal naturally. (Which doesn't sound like a big deal, with all the various spells, but it can be.)

They gain half benefit from cure spells.

They gain full benefit from repair spells (basically arcane cure spells for constructs, and constructs only).