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<blockquote data-quote="Rod Staffwand" data-source="post: 6634490" data-attributes="member: 6776279">Stuff that's preventing me from doing anything other than dabbling in 5E:1. The classes/subclasses. I don't like how most of them are built and would have to rewrite most class features to get them into shape. Doable, but I won't bother.2. Short rests. I hate these things, yet they're impossible to get rid of. I hate that some classes use them to recharge powers while others don't, essentially mandating 6-8 encounters a day with 2 short rests to keep everything fair. I prefer a much more naturalistic style--the default 5E assumptions are way too contrived for me.3. Advantage/disadvantage is a good simplifying mechanic, but it adds way too much rolling. The same goes for features like GWM. If my group was so in love with dice rolling we'd just play Yahtzee instead.4. Monsters are dull and require cross-indexing in play if they have spells. Would rather they have more flare. At the same time, I don't really need to know what a goblin's charisma is.5. Scaling is questionable.6. Proficiencies and skills are baked in and half-baked at the same time. Not much discussion in how to set DCs for different types of tasks.7. Spells and cantrips seem poorly vetted.I'm sure there's more, but those are the ones that come readily to mind. It's still one of the best editions of D&amp;D. I'd take it over 3X, 4E or Pathfinder easily. It just doesn't go far enough or is as readily changeable as I want it to be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rod Staffwand, post: 6634490, member: 6776279"] Stuff that's preventing me from doing anything other than dabbling in 5E: 1. The classes/subclasses. I don't like how most of them are built and would have to rewrite most class features to get them into shape. Doable, but I won't bother. 2. Short rests. I hate these things, yet they're impossible to get rid of. I hate that some classes use them to recharge powers while others don't, essentially mandating 6-8 encounters a day with 2 short rests to keep everything fair. I prefer a much more naturalistic style--the default 5E assumptions are way too contrived for me. 3. Advantage/disadvantage is a good simplifying mechanic, but it adds way too much rolling. The same goes for features like GWM. If my group was so in love with dice rolling we'd just play Yahtzee instead. 4. Monsters are dull and require cross-indexing in play if they have spells. Would rather they have more flare. At the same time, I don't really need to know what a goblin's charisma is. 5. Scaling is questionable. 6. Proficiencies and skills are baked in and half-baked at the same time. Not much discussion in how to set DCs for different types of tasks. 7. Spells and cantrips seem poorly vetted. I'm sure there's more, but those are the ones that come readily to mind. It's still one of the best editions of D&D. I'd take it over 3X, 4E or Pathfinder easily. It just doesn't go far enough or is as readily changeable as I want it to be. [/QUOTE]

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