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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6639742" data-attributes="member: 48965">I find it interesting that you compare the fighter to a partial caster class (the paladin) but have difficulty accepting a fighter partial caster as valid... Anyway... one of the most powerful Fighter-derived features are bonus feats (which for some reason are often ignored in conversations around the out of combat utility of fighters)... I believe the fighter gets two more feats than every other class in the game... which means he can either go the route of increasing ability scores outside of Str/Dex &amp; Con making him more capable of non-combat stuff in a general sense or if he wants to have specific non-combat abilities select feats such as...AthleteActorDungeon DelverHealerInspiring LeaderKeen MindLinguistLuckyMagic InitiateMobileObservantRitual CasterSkilledSkulkerAll of which are applicable to non-combat situations... IMO, the 5e fighter is, especially compared to past editions and relative to the other classes in 5e, capable of having a decent to nice range of non-combat stuff... but it's player choice as opposed to hard coded in the class.&nbsp; If a player uses his regular feats and bonus feats to focus entirely on combat abilities... he can't then turn around and complain about the fighter lacking non-combat utility.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6639742, member: 48965"] I find it interesting that you compare the fighter to a partial caster class (the paladin) but have difficulty accepting a fighter partial caster as valid... Anyway... one of the most powerful Fighter-derived features are bonus feats (which for some reason are often ignored in conversations around the out of combat utility of fighters)... I believe the fighter gets two more feats than every other class in the game... which means he can either go the route of increasing ability scores outside of Str/Dex & Con making him more capable of non-combat stuff in a general sense or if he wants to have specific non-combat abilities select feats such as... Athlete Actor Dungeon Delver Healer Inspiring Leader Keen Mind Linguist Lucky Magic Initiate Mobile Observant Ritual Caster Skilled Skulker All of which are applicable to non-combat situations... IMO, the 5e fighter is, especially compared to past editions and relative to the other classes in 5e, capable of having a decent to nice range of non-combat stuff... but it's player choice as opposed to hard coded in the class. If a player uses his regular feats and bonus feats to focus entirely on combat abilities... he can't then turn around and complain about the fighter lacking non-combat utility. [/QUOTE]

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