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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6644429" data-attributes="member: 6774887">The point of a climb speed is not the swiftness of the climbing, but the removal of the need to roll. I would be fine with a climb speed of 1/2 your normal speed for example. By a certain level, a competent athlete should not really be impeded by mere cliffs. Imagine if The Man in Black had to make climb checks to climb the cliffs of insanity? Even with a 75% chance of success for every 50 feet climbed, he would have eventually failed and fallen to his death. Not very heroic is it? The athlete feat does nothing to affect your chance to successfully climb something. Not to mention that climb speed is pretty much only relevant in combat. Outside of combat, it doesn't normally matter whether or not it takes 5 or 10 minutes to climb an obstacle. Again, another purely combat oriented feature. It doesn't affect non-combat capabilities at all. A very minor boost, as you only need to run 10 feet to make a running jump normally. Not to mention that in most non-combat situations, you can easily get a 10 ft run in before jumping. Exceptional carrying capacity allows you to interact with your environment in ways that are useful for exploration. No path across a chasm? Uproot a tree and make a bridge with it. A giant boulder in your way? Move it aside with your exceptional strength. Exceptional strength is one of the most common advantages of heroes from myth and legend, and is one of the most useful for exploration.Sure, but anyone can do that. That isn't unique to the fighter. The wizard with 18 Strength and proficiency in athletics is just as good as the fighter at all of that.Nope, not really. Expertise or reliable talent in athletics would certainly help the fighter in the exploration pillar, but strictly needed. I would rather have unique capabilities and talents than automatic success on athletics checks.And again, how is that unique to the fighter. The fighter is just as good at improvising as anyone else. Everyone else also happens to get unique and powerful abilities for outside of combat.</blockquote>

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