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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6645016" data-attributes="member: 48965">Well I do think it's a little lopsided to compare 5e year one vs. 4e complete.&nbsp; That said, 5e specifically calls out the lower levels 1-3 (or is it 4) as apprentice levels for those who want the experience of playing a character who is an apprentice adventurer... I think this was an answer to many who had missed that starting play in 4e.&nbsp; Now whether you did or did not enjoy the low level play of previous editions... I think it's trivial to start at 4th level or above for a game that starts with more proficient adventurers... 4e on the other hand didn't really offer this option.I'm not sure I agree with your filling in the blanks statement... I mean there's ways to get new skills... combat styles, broad based proficiencies, etc.&nbsp; Maybe I'm not understanding what gaps you are speaking too, could you elaborate some?Also there are steal a little bit of a class feats... Magic Intitiate, Dungeon Delver, Healer, Inspiring Leader, Martial Adept, Ritual Caster, etc. With these plus the ability to freely multi-class (and the ability requirements to stop you from taking a trap class...4e I'm looking at you and your hybrids)... I think 5e is pretty flexible.&nbsp; But again maybe I'm not understanding the gaps you are trying to fill in.This I can understand because 4e's gonzo superhero-esque default wasn't my groups cup of tea, especially long-term, either.&nbsp; We just like a grittier/more down to earth feel for our D&amp;D.&nbsp; On top of that combat dragged for us and shuffling through the multitude of cards trying to pick a power grew less and less enjoyable as we got higher in level.&nbsp; I don't really run published adventures or campaign settings so we don't have a feeling of running through the same scenarios 1000 times... to each their own I guess.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6645016, member: 48965"] Well I do think it's a little lopsided to compare 5e year one vs. 4e complete. That said, 5e specifically calls out the lower levels 1-3 (or is it 4) as apprentice levels for those who want the experience of playing a character who is an apprentice adventurer... I think this was an answer to many who had missed that starting play in 4e. Now whether you did or did not enjoy the low level play of previous editions... I think it's trivial to start at 4th level or above for a game that starts with more proficient adventurers... 4e on the other hand didn't really offer this option. I'm not sure I agree with your filling in the blanks statement... I mean there's ways to get new skills... combat styles, broad based proficiencies, etc. Maybe I'm not understanding what gaps you are speaking too, could you elaborate some? Also there are steal a little bit of a class feats... Magic Intitiate, Dungeon Delver, Healer, Inspiring Leader, Martial Adept, Ritual Caster, etc. With these plus the ability to freely multi-class (and the ability requirements to stop you from taking a trap class...4e I'm looking at you and your hybrids)... I think 5e is pretty flexible. But again maybe I'm not understanding the gaps you are trying to fill in. This I can understand because 4e's gonzo superhero-esque default wasn't my groups cup of tea, especially long-term, either. We just like a grittier/more down to earth feel for our D&D. On top of that combat dragged for us and shuffling through the multitude of cards trying to pick a power grew less and less enjoyable as we got higher in level. I don't really run published adventures or campaign settings so we don't have a feeling of running through the same scenarios 1000 times... to each their own I guess. [/QUOTE]

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