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<blockquote data-quote="Corpsetaker" data-source="post: 6646486" data-attributes="member: 6776548">Excuse me? 5th edition gives loads more room for the DM than in 4th edition. All you have to do is go back and compare the 4th edition PHB to the 5th edition one and you will see which gives more options and which gives more freedom to players and DM's.If you go and look at the chapter on skills in the 5th PHB you see a list of &quot;examples&quot; that are given for each ability score. Notice how they are &quot;examples&quot; and not a specific list of things you can only do. If you look under the 4th edition PHB in the skills section you will see Acrobatics. You will see that performing a stunt is a standard action or a move action depending on the stunt while actions are not taken into account in 5th edition. If my action is to flip over the goblin and stab him from behind then there is no action economy. All I have to do is take my appropriate move, execute the Dex check, and then use my attack to make the stab. 4th edition is too heavily relied on the powers and staying with in the confines of those powers. Can you change anything? Sure you can, you can do that in any edition of D&amp;D it's just that 5th edition gives more power for that sort of thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corpsetaker, post: 6646486, member: 6776548"] Excuse me? 5th edition gives loads more room for the DM than in 4th edition. All you have to do is go back and compare the 4th edition PHB to the 5th edition one and you will see which gives more options and which gives more freedom to players and DM's. If you go and look at the chapter on skills in the 5th PHB you see a list of "examples" that are given for each ability score. Notice how they are "examples" and not a specific list of things you can only do. If you look under the 4th edition PHB in the skills section you will see Acrobatics. You will see that performing a stunt is a standard action or a move action depending on the stunt while actions are not taken into account in 5th edition. If my action is to flip over the goblin and stab him from behind then there is no action economy. All I have to do is take my appropriate move, execute the Dex check, and then use my attack to make the stab. 4th edition is too heavily relied on the powers and staying with in the confines of those powers. Can you change anything? Sure you can, you can do that in any edition of D&D it's just that 5th edition gives more power for that sort of thing. [/QUOTE]

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