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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6647978" data-attributes="member: 6696971">There was nothing in the Wilderness Hazards section of that strain that I was looking for (the sucking bog/quicksand hazard is certainly interesting, if fiddly, mechanics...but it doesn't help quick, consistent, and balanced adjudication of improvisational actions/stunting).I'm going to use level 6 for this (it is as good as any I suppose).[HR][/HR]4eQuick tutorial on 4e stunting.  A basic attack is roughly Level + 8 damage or the medium at-will damage expression.  The high at-will damage expression is your at-will powers that include a rider, so Level + 8 damage + minor rider.  An AoE effect is roughly worth 25 % budget or typically a drop down one step.  An encounter/limited-use ability is worth around 25 % more budget than the high at-will.  I've been using <a href="http://slyflourish.com/master_dm_sheet.pdf" target="_blank">Sly Flourish's</a> (I think since MM3) as it is more granular at the level by level basis.  4e is about competent, mythical fantasy protagonists, ever engaged in high-octane action/adventure and ensconced in dynamic/dramatic conflicts.  Folks who are stunting are typically going to be leveraging (a) a trained skill and (b) an ability modifier that is either top-end or respectable.  Consequently, the DCs for such situations orbit around an extremely high success rate for the ability check portion of stunting (typically auto-success or near it for Medium DC, which makes up the majority of ability checks in stunting).So I have a 6th level Wizard with + 14 Arcana (+ 3 lvl + 5 trained + 4 Int + 2 either from Race, Theme, Background).  This Arcana check automatically passes the medium DC @ 15 and passes the hard DC @ 23 at a 55 % clip.  He has an At-Will with the Fire Keyword....say Scorching Burst.  This interacts with the fiction/set-dressing as being capable of ignition.  The player makes the following action declaration:"I want to set the spirits-soaked area rug covering the common room ablaze!"I think "...cool, that is exactly the kind of move I want to encourage."  I say; "Cool.  That doesn't seem to crazy...not like slagging metal to weld a door shut.  We'll go with medium DC."He auto-passes the DC 15 Arcana check so we're on to adjudicating/negotiating the effect.  This is obviously Limited Use (can't set the common room rug ablaze repeatedly) for his level so we're at ~ 21.  He wants an AoE so let us bump it down.  He wants an effect so let us bump it down again.  Should probably have a miss for half so bump it down again.  So we're at low, at-will or roughly 11ish damage.  Since it is a Fire effect, let us make it 4 Fire damage and 5 Ongoing (worth ~ 7ish damage) Fire, save ends.What kind of effect makes sense.  A Hazard.  A zone where if you enter the fire hazard or end your turn in the fire hazard, you take 5 fire damage.  Also, the fire spreads to adjacent squares (up to the edge of the rug) at the end of each of the Wizard player's turns.  So if I were to write that out as a Terrain Power, it would like look this:Burnin Down the House!                  Single-UseStandard Action - Ranged 10 Burst 1Check:  Arcana (Medium DC) with a Fire Spell to light the spirit-soaked Common Room rug.Success:  The rug is set ablaze, make a burst 1 attack.Attack:  + 6 (Lvl + 3) vs Reflex (NPC Reflex at this level is typically 16-18 with a stray 19 and very rare 20).Damage:  1d6 fire damage and 5 ongoing fire damage (save ends).Miss:  5 ongoing fire damage (save ends).Effect: The burst creates a zone that lasts until the end of the encounter. Any creature that enters the zone or ends its turn there takes 5 fire damage.  The fire spreads to each adjacent square, until it reaches the perimeter of the rug, at the end of your turn.[HR][/HR]Don't have time to continue.  I'll do the 5e analogue later today/this evening and then have some commentary.  I'll do the Fighter pushing over a ruined wall tomorrow.</blockquote>

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