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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6648010" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Gosh, for a guy that posts a very nice recapitulation of the edition war above you think anyone wants to listen? I don't want to join that war, we've had a lot of debate, maybe some verging on crossing the line, but I'd appreciate if you wouldn't go there. </p><p></p><p>Yes, I think 5e is limited in scope. Honestly I think its perfectly fair to compare all of 4e to 5e because frankly I don't think there's any ambition to make anything more of 5e. I don't think WotC has ANY intention of publishing another 5e book. Inevitably there will be a little nibbling around the edges, but I think they quite clearly heard from a substantial subset of fans that new and original stuff isn't really appreciated and that they're sick of crunch. So, yes, I think 5e is quite limited in scope. Its only ambition is to reproduce the game play and conventions of 2e without straying too far from the structure of 3e (mindful of PF and its fans, clearly one of the two major target constituencies along with AD&D 'grognards'). </p><p></p><p>Obviously you didn't like 4e, fine, good for you. Now, do a little mind-expanding exercise and realize that not everyone else is exactly like you and we all get have our opinions, yours aren't sacred and everyone else's aren't 'poppycock' or 'have no merit' etc. OK? The thread IS titled 'Why does 5E SUCK?', its point is really to ask what did/do we want 5e to be. I want it to be a visionary game that continues to take D&D in new and interesting directions, and its not. That's what 'sucks' about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6648010, member: 82106"] Gosh, for a guy that posts a very nice recapitulation of the edition war above you think anyone wants to listen? I don't want to join that war, we've had a lot of debate, maybe some verging on crossing the line, but I'd appreciate if you wouldn't go there. Yes, I think 5e is limited in scope. Honestly I think its perfectly fair to compare all of 4e to 5e because frankly I don't think there's any ambition to make anything more of 5e. I don't think WotC has ANY intention of publishing another 5e book. Inevitably there will be a little nibbling around the edges, but I think they quite clearly heard from a substantial subset of fans that new and original stuff isn't really appreciated and that they're sick of crunch. So, yes, I think 5e is quite limited in scope. Its only ambition is to reproduce the game play and conventions of 2e without straying too far from the structure of 3e (mindful of PF and its fans, clearly one of the two major target constituencies along with AD&D 'grognards'). Obviously you didn't like 4e, fine, good for you. Now, do a little mind-expanding exercise and realize that not everyone else is exactly like you and we all get have our opinions, yours aren't sacred and everyone else's aren't 'poppycock' or 'have no merit' etc. OK? The thread IS titled 'Why does 5E SUCK?', its point is really to ask what did/do we want 5e to be. I want it to be a visionary game that continues to take D&D in new and interesting directions, and its not. That's what 'sucks' about it. [/QUOTE]
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