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<blockquote data-quote="tyrlaan" data-source="post: 6649651" data-attributes="member: 20998">I think your post would be a lot more palatable if the section I bolded was either not there or instead delivered without the not-so-subtle subtext that you are right and those that disagree with you are wrong. More to the point, I feel like we've sort of beat the dead horse, buried it, exhumed the corpse to smack it around some more, took a breath, and then got back to beating on it when it comes to trying to &quot;prove&quot; which system is better for improvisation. Isn't this well past being on topic for &quot;why does 5e suck&quot; and probably better in it's own thread if the conversation carries on?Personally I'd be more interested to read/participate in some discussion on spells in monster stats, and CR calculations, both of which are at least concrete aspects of 5e and also happen to be ballywicks I have with the system, but then I'm selfish like that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="tyrlaan, post: 6649651, member: 20998"] I think your post would be a lot more palatable if the section I bolded was either not there or instead delivered without the not-so-subtle subtext that you are right and those that disagree with you are wrong. More to the point, I feel like we've sort of beat the dead horse, buried it, exhumed the corpse to smack it around some more, took a breath, and then got back to beating on it when it comes to trying to "prove" which system is better for improvisation. Isn't this well past being on topic for "why does 5e suck" and probably better in it's own thread if the conversation carries on? Personally I'd be more interested to read/participate in some discussion on spells in monster stats, and CR calculations, both of which are at least concrete aspects of 5e and also happen to be ballywicks I have with the system, but then I'm selfish like that :) [/QUOTE]

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