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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6650696" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, that's just sort of an odd answer. I mean in 4e by contrast if your level 20 fighter wanders around a level 1 village he can pick any lock, the level 20 wizard can win any arm wrestling contest, etc. Both of these are kind of edge cases, it just seems to me that the 5e edge case has a greater implication for the fiction. Clearly all such edge cases devolve down to "don't do that!", never was it a totally satisfying answer...I dunno. I guess I never felt the constraints that so many people talk about. 5e is a set of rules, just like all others, you make it work to your service. Perhaps my attitude is left over from 0e days. Consequently I don't find there to be some advantage to 5e in terms of 'make stuff up'. My criteria is always "how much stuff do I HAVE to make up." If I buy a game, why not have it work as intended from day one? I guess I could simply reinvent many specific monsters to have attributes that make them unbeatable to masses of lower level people (probably just require magic weapons to hit them). It just seems a bit more contrived than "The dragon is just so incredibly huge and tough that he can literally eat 100 crossbowmen" which would be the 4e variation. In the end none of this is any tragic flaw. 5e works OK, and you don't have to paper over anything substantially more than you would in older editions, generally speaking. So, yeah, its an oddity and a reason I liked the general power curve that 4e had a bit better. 5e just seems to be designed to produce a more 'low fantasy' type of result where even your really boss hero guys are still basically qualitatively in the same realm as the rest of the ordinary world.</blockquote>

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