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<blockquote data-quote="Erechel" data-source="post: 6650905" data-attributes="member: 6784868">And you keep ignoring that mister Hobo McTen really can't overtake anything hard because their skill set does not avail it, as Imaro stated. He only has a 5% chance to make something hard, and none to accomplish something in between hard and Very Hard, and that advantage/disadvantage only keeps true the average, and it isn't the equivalent to a +5 (as many said), because with advantage, aid or Guidance spell he basically is stuck on the possibility of achieving a hard task, but not a very hard task.And you keep ignoring that there are the same rules, and the only change is the probability (an it isn't even that) because the scores are flatter. The peasant also can lift a mountain in 4th edition, if this is the keypoint: he also has the same vague limits than the fighter. Only that he can't be subject to a skill check, so the peasant can lift mountains every <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing time the fighter can, by your perspective -it takes only permission from the DM, the very same way that the peasant in 5th edition. And you keep ignoring that it isn't a fail of design to give Mr. Average a slight possibility to be the hero that saves the day, it's the objective of the edition, but this is mediated by the DM. In fact, your complain is mostly about &quot;why everyone else don't suck as much as before. I want to everyone sucks but me&quot;, and not &quot;I can make anything I want&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Erechel, post: 6650905, member: 6784868"] And you keep ignoring that mister Hobo McTen really can't overtake anything hard because their skill set does not avail it, as Imaro stated. He only has a 5% chance to make something hard, and none to accomplish something in between hard and Very Hard, and that advantage/disadvantage only keeps true the average, and it isn't the equivalent to a +5 (as many said), because with advantage, aid or Guidance spell he basically is stuck on the possibility of achieving a hard task, but not a very hard task. And you keep ignoring that there are the same rules, and the only change is the probability (an it isn't even that) because the scores are flatter. The peasant also can lift a mountain in 4th edition, if this is the keypoint: he also has the same vague limits than the fighter. Only that he can't be subject to a skill check, so the peasant can lift mountains every :):):):)ing time the fighter can, by your perspective -it takes only permission from the DM, the very same way that the peasant in 5th edition. And you keep ignoring that [I]it isn't a fail of design to give Mr. Average a slight possibility to be the hero that saves the day, it's the objective of the edition[/I], but this is mediated by the DM. In fact, your complain is mostly about "why everyone else don't suck as much as before. I want to everyone sucks but me", and not "I can make anything I want". [/QUOTE]

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