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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6652270" data-attributes="member: 22779">I think the only thing I can honestly say that I hate about 5e is the organization.&nbsp; Heck, this thread shows that - look at the examples for 5e setting DC's for actions.&nbsp; [MENTION=48965]Imaro[/MENTION], I believe, posted a dozen or so different pages listing guidelines for determining DC's.&nbsp; It's bloody annoying.&nbsp; And the index is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing useless.&nbsp; I want to find a giant wasp in the MM index.&nbsp; So, I have to look under &quot;G&quot; for giant?&nbsp; No listing under &quot;W&quot;?&nbsp; Never mind trying to find skill stuff in the index in the PHB.&nbsp; ARGH.&nbsp; Sorry, personal bugaboo here.&nbsp; I find the 5e books very opaque when it comes to using them as a reference book.&nbsp; Fun to read, but, annoying as all get out to use at the table.Oh, and one other thing that I don't like in 5e.&nbsp; The level of flavour in the Monster Manual.&nbsp; They really, really added a bunch of stuff to almost every monster that I don't feel was needed.&nbsp; Sorry, no, my minotaurs are not cursed humans.&nbsp; My kobolds are not slaves to dragons.&nbsp; Salamanders are not slaves to the Efreet.&nbsp; Stop trying to ram specific flavour down my throat.&nbsp; Give me the monsters, give me some generic background, and get the hell out of my way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6652270, member: 22779"] I think the only thing I can honestly say that I hate about 5e is the organization. Heck, this thread shows that - look at the examples for 5e setting DC's for actions. [MENTION=48965]Imaro[/MENTION], I believe, posted a dozen or so different pages listing guidelines for determining DC's. It's bloody annoying. And the index is :):):):)ing useless. I want to find a giant wasp in the MM index. So, I have to look under "G" for giant? No listing under "W"? Never mind trying to find skill stuff in the index in the PHB. ARGH. Sorry, personal bugaboo here. I find the 5e books very opaque when it comes to using them as a reference book. Fun to read, but, annoying as all get out to use at the table. Oh, and one other thing that I don't like in 5e. The level of flavour in the Monster Manual. They really, really added a bunch of stuff to almost every monster that I don't feel was needed. Sorry, no, my minotaurs are not cursed humans. My kobolds are not slaves to dragons. Salamanders are not slaves to the Efreet. Stop trying to ram specific flavour down my throat. Give me the monsters, give me some generic background, and get the hell out of my way. [/QUOTE]

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