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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tyrlaan" data-source="post: 6653326" data-attributes="member: 20998">That's a big plate of assumptions that's a bit more than I normally like to eat at a meal.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who argued that 5e delivers dangers in a way that no other game has? Oddly enough, my argument is that, despite folks claiming it does deliver dangers in a new way (or "new retro" or just "not 4e", pick your phraseology), it most assuredly does not. Figuring out how to deliver danger is always in the hands of the GM and 5e does not change this. Now, people are arguing they have issue with adjudicating DCs in 5e, but that's a very, very different claim than it delivers dangers in a different way</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Assuming the problem is one of understanding when the thread has been going strong for 75+ pages with very long and detailed replies is probably a bad assumption to hold. Instead perhaps assume that people know what they are talking about and just see things differently than you</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Why the 4e/5e commentary again? I don't see how it's relevant to make a point other than to discredit the person you disagree with... which isn't making a point</li> </ul>I'll keep this brief because I think you're being pretty inflammatory here.You like 5e. That's very cool for you. You know what? Just because someone has explained they don't like something about 5e here in this thread doesn't mean they don't like 5e too. RPGs cover a lot of ground, which means they have a lot of room for people to like some aspects and dislike others.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Disliking a part of a game doesn't mean you dislike the whole game.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Disliking a part or the entirety of a game doesn't mean other people have to dislike it too.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Disliking a part or the entirety of a game does not mean the root cause of the dislike is a bias to another game.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Liking a game or part of the game doesn't mean disliking the same thing is incorrect, blatantly false, or based on gross simplifications.</li> </ul>Please take this into consideration in future replies.</blockquote>

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