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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6654078" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p> It seemed like a fair assumption, when Next was on the horizon, that anyone who had given 4e that kind of chance would also embrace 5e - that they were the kind of long-time, loyal fans who would always support the current ed. (That and there was never going to be a 4e analogue to Pathfinder as an alternative.)</p><p></p><p>I think that's how it's worked out: You don't see a huge edition war being brewed by angry 4e fans. You do see 4e fans trying 5e and appreciating it for that nostalgic factor it delivers so well, even if they don't stop playing 4e entirely, right away. </p><p></p><p>And it does do a little more than just nostalgia, as it also seems to have undone the RAW-uber-alles phenomenon that plagued 3.5/Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>And it's kept a few refinements from 3.0 that survived (and were further refined) through d20, 3.5, 4e, Essentials, and Next... Things like de-facto between-combat and overnight healing, a single exp chart, even advancement (via proficiency, this time, rather than ranks or other per-level bonuses), symetric bonuses from all stats, and so forth. There's lots of still-reasonably-modern d20 in 5e - it just doesn't detract from the nostalgia factor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6654078, member: 996"] Yes. It seemed like a fair assumption, when Next was on the horizon, that anyone who had given 4e that kind of chance would also embrace 5e - that they were the kind of long-time, loyal fans who would always support the current ed. (That and there was never going to be a 4e analogue to Pathfinder as an alternative.) I think that's how it's worked out: You don't see a huge edition war being brewed by angry 4e fans. You do see 4e fans trying 5e and appreciating it for that nostalgic factor it delivers so well, even if they don't stop playing 4e entirely, right away. And it does do a little more than just nostalgia, as it also seems to have undone the RAW-uber-alles phenomenon that plagued 3.5/Pathfinder. And it's kept a few refinements from 3.0 that survived (and were further refined) through d20, 3.5, 4e, Essentials, and Next... Things like de-facto between-combat and overnight healing, a single exp chart, even advancement (via proficiency, this time, rather than ranks or other per-level bonuses), symetric bonuses from all stats, and so forth. There's lots of still-reasonably-modern d20 in 5e - it just doesn't detract from the nostalgia factor. [/QUOTE]
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