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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_Gneech" data-source="post: 6655490" data-attributes="member: 6779">In re: the Diary of Vecna, I think the thing that drove me most crazy about the levelling treadmill in 3.x and 4E both was it made levelling feel like a lot of math for no benefit. As someone said upthread, if you have +5 against a DC 15 lock at level five and +10 against a DC 25 lock in the same situation at level ten, then what purpose do those levels serve. Ditto fighting... if you've got +5 to hit and do 10 damage against an AC 15/20 hp orc at level five, then +10 to hit and 20 damage against an AC 25/40 hp orc at level ten... why have you bothered?The answer, presumably, is that your abilities have broadened, thanks to gained feats/class features/etc., and I can totally get behind that. But if that's all that -really- changes, why not just track that stuff and chuck out the arbitrary number inflation?Theoretically, that's what bounded accuracy does, or at least moves toward. Most of a character's abilities are going to stay fairly static (Which means you actually get -worse- against things that call for saving throws you aren't proficient with! But that's a whole other post.), but that's okay because the rest of the world around you is also static. But you do get perceivably better at the things you are supposed to be good at.In the case of number of attacks (or spell damage) and hit points, those things grow because they are the things that measure the improvement of certain characters (particularly fighters and blasty mages). The fact that other characters -don't- get that much better by comparison is how they differentiate.Living in a "relativistic" game world that moves the goalposts depending on the skill of the character is something that has always bugged me. The old Star Wars d6 system did something similar when it changed its DC scale from 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 to 3-7 / 8-12 / 13-17 / 18-23 between 1st and 2nd editions. I had at least one player quip, "Can we hire a starting character to come in here and skew the difficulty numbers down?"-The Gneech <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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