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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6656182" data-attributes="member: 996">Try to remember that they don't actually exist, please.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; But, sure, say the concept of the Cleric is that he's an itinerant individual seeking secret lore and magic to increase his personal power, he serves Vecna because doing so gets him secrets and power.&nbsp; The EHP, OTOH, has been groomed since birth to lead his secret Cult.&nbsp; Like his father and grandfather before him, he has the persona of a wealthy, effete nobleman, and a great deal of political influence - but he's never had to lift a finger a day in his life - and, like them, has received terrible magic powers from Vecna in return for the souls &amp; secrets of his cultists &amp; their victims.&nbsp; Might be very different characters, even if they both cast up to 7th level divine spells granted to them by the same deity.&nbsp;I think the above example does exactly that.Tell you what, find a scientist who can send a probe to Greyhawk and prove that the nature of it's physical 'reality' conforms to those physical laws.&nbsp; Maybe he could figure out the Rain of Colorless Fire for them, while he's at it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6656182, member: 996"] Try to remember that they don't actually exist, please. ;) But, sure, say the concept of the Cleric is that he's an itinerant individual seeking secret lore and magic to increase his personal power, he serves Vecna because doing so gets him secrets and power. The EHP, OTOH, has been groomed since birth to lead his secret Cult. Like his father and grandfather before him, he has the persona of a wealthy, effete nobleman, and a great deal of political influence - but he's never had to lift a finger a day in his life - and, like them, has received terrible magic powers from Vecna in return for the souls & secrets of his cultists & their victims. Might be very different characters, even if they both cast up to 7th level divine spells granted to them by the same deity. I think the above example does exactly that. Tell you what, find a scientist who can send a probe to Greyhawk and prove that the nature of it's physical 'reality' conforms to those physical laws. Maybe he could figure out the Rain of Colorless Fire for them, while he's at it. [/QUOTE]

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